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#1 Huxley

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 06:34 AM

Now that I've got a Wicked Fast IIfx, I'm curious - what is/are the fastest NuBus video cards for a 68k Mac? I did a little poking around on Google, but most of the info I saw seemed to relate much more to the early PPC machines... Just wondering, Huxley
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#2 quicksilver

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 06:50 AM

http://lowendmac.com/video/index.html

#3 Quadraman

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 07:34 AM

A Thunder IV is always good for whipping the pants off of System 6 on IIfx.
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#4 LCGuy

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 01:29 PM

However, if you want to go the all-Apple route, the Apple 24*AC card was the best NuBus video card Apple made.
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#5 Unknown_K

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 02:26 PM

The supermac Thunder II, Radius Thunder IV cards are decent. It all depends on what you are going to use the IIfx for. Video cards with DSPs onboard mostly just speed up photoshop, so if you are not a heavy photoshop user a cheap Thunder/24 would be great (and easy to find). Some Rasterops cards were decent as well. Apple 24*AC cards are a bit hard to find, and have limitations on what OS they work on.
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Wanted: Anything Nubus, Video capture and editing hardware and software for 68k mac. Original software including A/UX.
Looking for 9150, Mac II, Color classic, 840av motherboard, and Nubus cards.

#6 Bolle

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 08:34 PM

Video cards with DSPs onboard mostly just speed up photoshop


aren´t the DSPs also used for quickdraw on the Thunder IV?
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#7 Unknown_K

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 09:48 PM

Not sure, since the base card should have quickdraw acceleration anyway I think. Also I don't think the DSPs can do photoshop and quickdraw at the same time (guess that does not matter since the App pretty much locks the system when you are doing DSP work). I you look at the Thunder II Supermac line the differences between the 3 top models is DSP card addon , RAM onboard, and for the high end one a different monitor connector.
Favorites: big box Mac IIs, 950, 800's
Wanted: Anything Nubus, Video capture and editing hardware and software for 68k mac. Original software including A/UX.
Looking for 9150, Mac II, Color classic, 840av motherboard, and Nubus cards.

#8 TylerEss

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 02:57 AM

Oooh! Use the Apple 8/24 GC, complete with "wicked fast" RISC chip that's faster than the CPU in the IIfx. If you're whomping System 6 on a IIfx, you might as well go all the way and build the time-realistic top-end config. Whomp Whomp Whomp!

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#9 Unknown_K

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 05:42 AM

Apple 8/24 GC

That is probably the only card Apple made that is worth getting. I hear it runs a bit hot.
Favorites: big box Mac IIs, 950, 800's
Wanted: Anything Nubus, Video capture and editing hardware and software for 68k mac. Original software including A/UX.
Looking for 9150, Mac II, Color classic, 840av motherboard, and Nubus cards.

#10 ChristTrekker

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 07:09 AM

I've been trying to compile video card info on the wiki, but haven't gotten very far yet.

#11 Franklinstein

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 08:55 AM

Apple 8/24 GC, complete with "wicked fast" RISC chip

I think the "'wicked fast' RISC chip" those cards use is an AMD 29000 processor... I've got one or two, but one of them has one of those Sun monitor connectors, so I can't really use it.

#12 TylerEss

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 09:01 AM

That is probably the only card Apple made that is worth getting. I hear it runs a bit hot.


And it's the card that everyone hated, because it had so many compatibility issues with newer system software releases. I love it because the architecture is so workstation-like: the card actually boots into it's own OS that receives QuickDraw calls from the Mac.

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#13 samurai-j

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 06:09 AM

Radius LeMansGT is also recommended.

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#14 TylerEss

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 05:43 PM

Radius LeMansGT is also recommended.

Isn't it faster in some ways than the Thunder-series cards?

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#15 samurai-j

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 02:27 AM

It is a performance equal to ThunderIV GX1600.

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#16 Unknown_K

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 03:45 AM

Isn't that card the base for the GX1600? All they did was add on 4 DSPs.
Favorites: big box Mac IIs, 950, 800's
Wanted: Anything Nubus, Video capture and editing hardware and software for 68k mac. Original software including A/UX.
Looking for 9150, Mac II, Color classic, 840av motherboard, and Nubus cards.

#17 samurai-j

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 11:38 AM

The GX1600 base is Thunder 24GT, it is different from LeMans GT.



#18 SiliconValleyPirate

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 10:14 PM

The Radius Thunder-IV drivers include a QuickDraw accelerator extension that speeds up Quickdraw noticeably. There is a hot-key you can hold down to turn it off and on again. I did it on a IIci with a 040/50 in and it made one HECK of a difference to the speed of screen redraws on the desktop. It made 7.x very usable at 1280x1024 [:D] In all my travels around NuBus video cards (I've got a few ya know [;)]) I've found that a properly setup Thunder IV is hard to beat, especially for Photoshop work. Actually, although scrticly OT, the video on the 840av is blooming stonkingly quick too, so much so that despite the restricted resolutions (if you want to keep the video overlay working at 24-bit) it was preferable to the Thunder IV (hence why I dropped it in the IIci [:)] )
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#19 Unknown_K

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 11:48 PM

I have a few Thunder/24 in use, generally a nice card. Not sure if the Spectrum/24 is the same minus the GWORLD SIMM slots.
Favorites: big box Mac IIs, 950, 800's
Wanted: Anything Nubus, Video capture and editing hardware and software for 68k mac. Original software including A/UX.
Looking for 9150, Mac II, Color classic, 840av motherboard, and Nubus cards.

#20 TylerEss

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 12:04 AM

Actually, although scrticly OT, the video on the 840av is blooming stonkingly quick too


I'd cry if an accelerated video chip that sits right next to the CPU bus wasn't stonkingly fast. :-)

+1 it rocks.

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