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The Balance Of Judgement
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Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 27 Jul 2003 :  01:13:34
I was searchig around and found out about MacMint, a port of the MiNT system for Atari.

http://www.sra.co.jp/people/hoshi/macmint-e.html is where you can find information on it.

The info on the Atari version is at http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?MiNT

I'm not sure what all it can do, but I am going to test it out, since it can run a few UNIX apps.

It's amazing what you can find, plus the neat thing is that from what I can tell it requires no FPU, which means plain 6800 Macs could run it.

shaktiman
Senior Member


United Kingdom
1226 Posts
Posted - 27 Jul 2003 :  11:10:09
Good to hear, now all we need is to find a version of TOS to run on Mac!

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cory5412
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USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 27 Jul 2003 :  22:18:17
does it run "uptime"

that's the best command in ANY unix machine

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tmtomh
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USA
172 Posts
Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  08:05:32
quote:

does it run "uptime"

that's the best command in ANY unix machine


I have MacMiNT installed on my Mystic CC and it works great. But uptime isn't installed by default. If anyone knows a place to get a binary for it, I'd be happy to try it out (most of the web info on MacMiNT is in Japanese). I suppose one could try simply copying a binary of uptime from a linux 68k or BSD 68k installation, but I don't have one handy. And I suppose one could try building it from source, but I'm lazy -- and building a binary from source in MacMiNT running on my 68k-based Mac, well that just sounds like a recipe for self-punishment.

Finally, are folks here aware of Mac06? It's similar -- a kind of Unix runtime environment very much like MacMiNT. It's made by some German guy (Google should turn it up). I installed it once on a 68k Mac -- it's a bit more complicated than MacMiNT but if memory serves it comes with more commands.

This all puts me in mind of a question I've had -- has there ever been any consideration by the mods here of starting a screenshot gallery, either on the web site or via a forum? It would be cool to use Kaleidoscope, MacMiNT and some other utils to make (and post to these forums) a faux-Linux/Unix/NeXTStep environment on my Mystic CC...

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The Balance Of Judgement
Senior Member


Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  08:45:25
Yes, I have used Mac 06, and it now has been released as open source, so technically it's free per say and you can get the source for it.

Mix Basilisk II Linux, MacMint, Mac 06, System 7.6 and Linux 68K and you could have a killer 68K system with 100% compatibility!

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cory5412
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USA
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Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  13:09:11
heheheh... now we need to know if BSD runs in emulation

If/when I get my IIsi I could probably take screenies (of decent size) with A/UX

only have a 640 by 480 monitor

I also would happen to wonder... does BSD for the 68k include and/or can it run an X11 graphic environment or whatever?

:funs:

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tmtomh
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USA
172 Posts
Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  15:29:00
quote:

I also would happen to wonder... does BSD for the 68k include and/or can it run an X11 graphic environment or whatever?

NetBSD for 68k does include X11. As of version 1.5.2 (the most recent one I've installed on a 68k Mac myself), the X Server was only 1-bit -- that's black and white. However, I've heard that subsequent releases of NetBSD (v1.6 and on) have an 8 bit (256 colors) X Server instead.

I would strongly recommend using a small/low-resource windowing system -- i.e. twm -- as loading up GNOME or KDE will take about 20 minutes, and thereafter using the UI will be dog-slow (I know; I've tried to use them on a Quadra 605 running Debian Linux).

Don't know if other BSD variants for 68k (like OpenBSD and FreeBSD) have X11 environements, but my guess would be that they do (and a simple trip to their home pages will give definitive answers).

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cory5412
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USA
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Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  22:28:12
hehehe... most unixy thingies aren't really my bag of tea anyway... A/UX is nice, and OSX is cool... but I'm not really too up for learning to do everything in linux/unix with a command line.... too lazy and not patient enough...

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The Balance Of Judgement
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Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 29 Jul 2003 :  00:02:09
If I had more time I would dive into programming in UNIX and just spit out the best code for 68k's.

But I have no time.


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1559 Posts
Posted - 29 Jul 2003 :  18:43:47
har..

quote:

How to install?

Sorry, not translated yet...


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The Balance Of Judgement
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Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 30 Jul 2003 :  18:25:37
Oh well.

However, the actualler downloaded file does have some detauls on installing, just not much.

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