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wisof Junior Member USA 257 Posts	Posted - 22 Jul 2003 : 22:20:19 Hello, I have a performa 630CD w/ a 68040 running os7.5.5. After running fine for a few days, suddenly the system freezes on startup. I start w/o extensions to try and resolve the problem. . .well, I am a newbie to macs. . .no extensions = no cd original system software. . .so I take out all of the extensions figuring I could start by adding one by one to see which extension was giving me trouble. Now the system wont get past this screen that says: :The "system" on this startup disk may be damaged. The installer can be used to repair this disk.: I cannot boot off of anything, the computer just reverts back to this screen on every startup. Any help would be appreciated. . .totally new to mac systems I have a problem with vintage electronics. . .I am working on it.
thequietman Junior Member Canada 127 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 06:46:19 Have you tried to start up from a floppy disk yet? --------------------------------------------- I want to be unique just like everybody else.
wisof Junior Member USA 257 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 07:15:14 Unfortunately I only have the CD with os 7.5. And no ability to switch the startup disk. . .do I just need to toss in a new hard drive? I have a problem with vintage electronics. . .I am working on it.
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 07:28:00 If you have a CD with 7.5, you should be able to start-up from it by inserting the CD and restarting whilst holding down the "C" key. G4From128k by Day: Mild-Mannered Engineer and Trapeze(tm) Artist by Night: Colonel of Truth, Justice, and the Macintosh Way Reserve Officer in 68kMLA Cantankerous Coot Contingent
wisof Junior Member USA 257 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 08:20:20 G4, thanks for the tip! I will check it out tonight. damn this job of mine. . .keeping me away from my mac! I am sorrounded by PCs!!!!!! I have a problem with vintage electronics. . .I am working on it.
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 08:40:04 quote: I am sorrounded by PCs!!!!!! Condolences. But as long as you can keep Intel Outside, you should be fine. G4From128k by Day: Mild-Mannered Engineer and Trapeze(tm) Artist by Night: Colonel of Truth, Justice, and the Macintosh Way Reserve Officer in 68kMLA Cantankerous Coot Contingent
wisof Junior Member USA 257 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 16:03:38 I tried to boot up with the system 7.5 disk whilst holding down "c" and I get the same message! >The "System" file on this startup disk may be damaged. The installer can be used to repair this disk.< There has to be a way to start over! My mac can't just be screwed because the software is! Is there a way I can just somehow wipe the hard drive and reinitialize the system? Help! I have a problem with vintage electronics. . .I am working on it.
wisof Junior Member USA 257 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 16:06:08 When I start up there is a smiling Mac as there always is. . .then it goes to "Welcome to Macintosh" (without the computer graphic to the left) and then the error message. This sucks. . . I have a problem with vintage electronics. . .I am working on it.
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 16:41:09 Try holding down Command-Option-P-R (the "Command" key is the Apple key or the one that looks like a little fan blade and is near the space bar). This resets the PRAM which contains a little bit of software and some settings that might be the source of all the troubles. G4From128k by Day: Mild-Mannered Engineer and Trapeze(tm) Artist by Night: Colonel of Truth, Justice, and the Macintosh Way Reserve Officer in 68kMLA Cantankerous Coot Contingent
wisof Junior Member USA 257 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 17:04:17 tried to reset the PRAM as you said. I restart and hear the mac startup sound. . .then I press command+option+P+R and I get the startup chime for a second time. . . then the smiling mac. . . then the same error. . . this happened to me once about two weeks ago, but miraculously I restarted to not get the error. now it will not go past it. . .no booting w/o extensions, no booting off the cd, no booting. . .and why does the mac icon keep smiling at me!?!?!? I have a problem with vintage electronics. . .I am working on it.
thequietman Junior Member Canada 127 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 17:17:24 It's smiling because the hardware is all okay, it's just the software that's messed up. Try booting from the Network Access Disk floppy and see if you get the same error. --------------------------------------------- I want to be unique just like everybody else.
wisof Junior Member USA 257 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 17:27:38 Network Access Disk? Unfortunately I do not have this disk. I did recently purchase a full copy of os 7.6 (in order to get to os7.6.1). This comes with CDs and floppies. Perhaps I can boot off of those floppies, but as of now, I have no floppies from which to boot off of. Unfortunately it is coming from the UK and I will have to wait at least 2 weeks for it to arrive. arrrrrrrrg. . . I do have access to other macs. . .is there a way to make a boot floppy disk from files found on the internet? The mac is running os8.6 (I believe). Can I download that Network access disk to a floppy and do it that way? I have a problem with vintage electronics. . .I am working on it. Edited by - wisof on 23 Jul 2003 17:30:51
thequietman Junior Member Canada 127 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 18:47:37 Download the Network Access Disk here: http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Utilities/Network_Access_Disk_7.5.sea.bin Write it to a floppy using DiskCopy on another Mac. If you want you can make one on a PC with a nifty self-writing image made by The Balance of Judgement. Then stick the floppy in your Mac and hold the "D" key as it starts up. --------------------------------------------- I want to be unique just like everybody else. Edited by - thequietman on 23 Jul 2003 18:50:11
wisof Junior Member USA 257 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 18:55:41 I went to my office to download the Network Access Disk, but did not use disc copy. . .how would I use the Balance of Judgement's nifty self-writing image? All I have are PCs at home. . .and the one mac! (thanks for all of your help!) I have a problem with vintage electronics. . .I am working on it. Edited by - wisof on 23 Jul 2003 18:56:19
thequietman Junior Member Canada 127 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 20:05:02 You can download BoJ's disk thingies here: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/citonx600/Network_Access_SMI.exe?download Just pop in a blank floppy, double click on the .exe file when it's downloaded, and wait for it to write the disk. ONce it's done you should have a bootable floppy disk for your Mac. --------------------------------------------- I want to be unique just like everybody else.
wisof Junior Member USA 257 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 22:23:01 That link is sold gold! Thanks for the direction. The utility worked beautifully and I am back up. . .so grateful! Thanks for helping me. Maybe I wont go to hell for using pcs for so long. . . I have a problem with vintage electronics. . .I am working on it.

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