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modifying the 580.

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mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 03 Jun 2003 : 13:09:07 hey, i was wondering, the 580 got IDE for hard disk and SCSI for cdrom right ? can i install CDRW to the IDE and hard disk to the SCSI ? please update asap. thanks. i liberated a performa 580 !!! it's running wild!!! 68k GO !
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 03 Jun 2003 : 16:41:09 1. Yes, you're right. The Performa 580 has an IDE hard drive and a SCSI CD-ROM drive. 2. As for putting a CD-RW on the IDE bus, you probably can, but it will need to hang out the back of the machine and look ugly, as there is no room in the hard drive bay for a 5.25" device. Hope this helps "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 04 Jun 2003 : 01:08:32 well, thanks man. that'll definitely boost my 580 performance. let see, asus 52X CDRW, i'm coming to get ya!! i liberated a performa 580 !!! it's running wild!!! 68k GO !
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 04 Jun 2003 : 01:49:41 Just make sure you use either: a) The version of the Apple CD ROM drivers that came with System 7.6 OR b) A 3rd party driver. Otherwise it's not gonna work. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 04 Jun 2003 : 03:45:46 please elaborate... i think driver would definitely be a big problem. asus cdrw don't have driver for 68k mac right ? can i use apple driver ? i liberated a performa 580 !!! it's running wild!!! 68k GO !
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 04 Jun 2003 : 06:16:10 Nah, Asus doesn't make CD-ROM drivers for the Mac. As for the version of the Apple CD-ROM drivers i was talking about, there is a version of the AppleCD ROM drivers that came with System 7.6 or 7.5.x, which SHOULD work with your drive....IIRC a lot of Maclones, which had third party drives, worked fine with that version. Hope this helps! "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 06 Jun 2003 : 03:11:31 can you recommend any good IDE cdrw ? that can support apple ? not scsi cdrw. i liberated a performa 580 !!! it's running wild!!! 68k GO !
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 06 Jun 2003 : 03:31:28 I'm not sure really. However, I do know that Plextor makes good drives. However, before making a decision you'd want to see if the drive you want is supported by Toast. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 08 Jun 2003 : 23:24:40 hey maclover, i'm planning to get the PAS 16 (refer to apple fritter). would it fit on my 580 ? if i install that, can i install anything else ? like video card/processor upgrade card... Edited by - mypojam on 08 Jun 2003 23:25:06
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 08 Jun 2003 : 23:30:20 Cant' see why it wouldn't fit. However, if you do that, you won't be able to put in a video card. You can upgrade the processor via a PowerPC based 603 Performa mobo, which will allow you to retain your PAS-16, and if you want ethernet, that goes into the brown slot next to the LC PDS slot, which is the Comm Slot. Hope this helps. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2003 : 03:10:54 ok, can you give me any other quality sound card on the mac ? and i don't restrict this to older mac. power macs apply too. i'm thinking of getting a G3/G4. need to edit audio tracks on it. can you give me an ideal spec ? RAM Soundcard ETC thanks. no offense but i always got answers from you, only you. how can we make more people visit here ? i liberated a performa 580 !!! it's running wild!!! 68k GO !
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2003 : 04:05:25 Well, on the G3/G4 side of things, there is the Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live (like the one you've probably seen on many PeeCees), which is excellent for normal consumer use, like games and stuff. However, for higher end users, i believe Digidesign makes them...you might wanna have a look around on their site....i really know next to nothing about top of the line audio stuff. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1 Edit - as for that comment about having more people visit, well, not as many people visit the MLA as they used to, mainly because of the fact that the 68kmla.com domain, which was what they probably remembered, is now permantly borked. Edited by - maclover5 on 09 Jun 2003 04:06:45
foetoid Full Member USA 554 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2003 : 11:43:07 When I find time, I'll try and come up with some ideas for you... I have one that would allow you to keep everything in the case, but I don't have time to elaborate right now... ________________ foetoid, that's (fee-toy-duh) http://www.foetoid.doesntexist.com da band: http://www.burningabbey.com
Slomac636 Junior Member USA 103 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2003 : 20:54:38 Please clear this up for me, are we talking about running a CD/RW in a 68k Mac here?? Does a 68040 have enough power to do that?? Macs Liberated: 9 - 6400/180 (main Mac), 660AV, 636CD, LCIII+, LCII (2), Classic II, Classic and SE. See my system: www.pbase.com/image/9129025
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2003 : 21:17:56 Couldn't see why not. My LC630 can burn a CD-R at 6x fine, and if you look in an old issue of MacAddict, you'll find a review for a DVD-RAM drive that requires a 50 Mhz '030 as a minimum to use the program that comes with it! iThink its the July 2000 issue. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2003 : 21:36:43 good stuff is coming my way. someone is gonna give me an apple cd. i don't know what model but i bet it's gonna run fine with my 580. i opened up the back case of the performa. how do you open the front slot of the performa ? the floppy section. hack it ? --------------------- i liberated a performa 580 !!! it's running wild!!! 68k GO !
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2003 : 21:55:39 Put your Performa on its side. See that little slot at the botton of the front there? Well, GENTLY put a screwdriver up it, a flat bladed one, enough to unclick a connector. If my memory serves me right, you'll hear a click. Once that's done, you can lower the drive cover a bit, and then pull it off. P.S. A few times i've done this, i've broken the little clip on the cover off. However, this doesn't matter, as when everything's back together, I find that it holds itself on well enough. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2003 : 22:31:27 thanks for the manual. i'm gonna need it. can you give me your 630 spec ? i'll love to read it. what cdr do you use ? apple ? yamaha ? plextor ? --------------------- i liberated a performa 580 !!! it's running wild!!! 68k GO !
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2003 : 22:37:01 I use a Teac burner. Anyway... My LC630 has the following specs: 52 megs of RAM (4 megs onboard + 32 meg SIMM + 16 meg SIMM) No hard drive (Used to have a really nice 6 gig, but it died... 8x CD ROM Apple Video System (COOL! ) DOS Card, 4 megs of RAM, no OS (read the bit about having no HD) 10BaseT Commslot RJ-45 ethernet Used to have OS 8.1, now it has no OS. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2003 : 22:44:17 so what are you using now ? are you planning to sell it ? why don't you replace the hard disk ? if you plan to sell it, i'll take the apple video system. that's the one that you can watch tv right ? i got an ethernet card. how much do you think it's worth ? i got it with the 580. well, i'm planning to get broadband so then again i might want to use it... --------------------- i liberated a performa 580 !!! it's running wild!!! 68k GO !
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2003 : 23:27:44 A) he's at Uni, his mac is at home b) when did it die??? c) lists need 3 items or more d) Cinemafia runs a cdburner INTERNALLY from his Quadra840av (refer to the quadra experience) e) I need to make a thread about "the quadra experience" Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life"
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2003 : 23:44:25 quote: so what are you using now ? are you planning to sell it ? why don't you replace the hard disk ? if you plan to sell it, i'll take the apple video system. that's the one that you can watch tv right ? i got an ethernet card. how much do you think it's worth ? i got it with the 580. well, i'm planning to get broadband so then again i might want to use it... a) I'm at uni, so i'm currently using the Dell..nice for a PC, but its not a Mac. b) Nope, its not getting sold, I'm sorry c) I have absolutely $0 at the moment. d) I only have the Video System, which has S-Video/Composite Video/stereo audio in. This allows you to hook up a VCR, camcorder or game console. Its the TV/Video Ssytem that allows you to watch TV without a VCR, which i don't have. As for the ethernet card, its probably worth about AU$20 (US$10). Sorry i can't help you, but this is a great Mac, and i wanna hang onto it for quite a while... "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2003 : 04:42:33 go ahead. make a new thread. i'm gonna need it. and make me the moderator too =P. how do you access the password protect thread ? i want to get in... about the tv thing. where do you think i can get it ? Edited by - mypojam on 10 Jun 2003 04:48:40
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2003 : 05:24:47 quote: go ahead. make a new thread. i'm gonna need it. and make me the moderator too =P. how do you access the password protect thread ? i want to get in... about the tv thing. where do you think i can get it ? Edited by - mypojam on 10 Jun 2003 04:48:40 a) Why should I make a new thread? This one is good enough. b) We're not looking for any more mods at the moment. Sorry! c) You need to be a moderator in order to get the pw d) As for where to get the TV/Video system, maybe you could try some friends of yours who use Macs, or you could try an Apple retailer that has been around for a while (1997 at the latest), or you could go onto eBay. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2003 : 05:34:46 a) Why should I make a new thread? This one is good enough. b) We're not looking for any more mods at the moment. Sorry! c) You need to be a moderator in order to get the pw d) As for where to get the TV/Video system, maybe you could try some friends of yours who use Macs, or you could try an Apple retailer that has been around for a while (1997 at the latest), or you could go onto eBay. yup, this thread is good enough. i got 2 actually. hehehe. forget about the new thread and moderator thing. i'm not good enough to be a moderator. TV/Video system. let me see.. ebay ? no chance of getting it. i might but it's hard to deal with read = malaysia. local mac distributor, i'll ask my way out. hopefully some of them still have the system but i guess it's gonna be super expensive. well, i need to get a job. i'm trying to persuade my father to buy me an emac. is it a good mac ? it's the cheapest... --------------------- i liberated a performa 580 !!! it's running wild!!! 68k GO !
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2003 : 05:54:08 If the TV system is any more than AU$30 (US$15), i'd say forget it. As for the eMac, yeah, it is a great machine. People badmouth it by saying its ugly and slow, but it actually is a very nice machine. Either way, i hope you get it! "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2003 : 06:05:17 hey maclover can you do me a favor ? check http://www.smallmac.com.my check the clearance section check the first item is it the card i need to watch tv on my 580 ? is it a good deal ? RM 1 = USD$0.26/ AUD$0.40 i'm logging out in 20 minutes so please hurry on the reply... --------------------- i liberated a performa 580 !!! it's running wild!!! 68k GO !
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2003 : 06:24:25 Oh shit. I just remembered.... There's no TV slot on the 580, only a Video slot. And yes, I have looked inside a 580 myself, IRL. There is no TV slot in it. That means that if you want to watch TV, you must plug in a VCR to the Video System and watch TV. Sorry..... "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2003 : 06:30:02 thanks to you i'm gonna commit suicide tonight. man i need to watch tv on it. it'll be so cool. oh, wonder about the fun i'll have if i got it. well, anyone got tips about suicide ? just kidding. see ya tomorrow. it's 9:30 pm now in malaysia. i don't know what time is it in australia. thanks anyway. pojam. --------------------- i liberated a performa 580 !!! it's running wild!!! 68k GO !
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2003 : 07:40:03 Yeah, sorry about that, but when i have study on my mind, you can never guarantee that what I'll say will be correct! "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 05:08:30 well, if it all works out as i plan it, i'm gonna give the performa to my lil brother. i want him to learn more stuff about computers and appreciatte apple computers. just like i used to be... maybe he'll grow up and be an apple genius. i hope he did. but let he choose what he wants to be. as for me, i'm gonna get either a standard power mac, upgraded to G3/G4, Or a powerbook G3 (lombard) 333 Mhz Or an eMac. i'm too depressed now because i know my change of getting it is 5%. but sometimes i visualize things, you know. dreams for those who can afford it. i visualize me and my G4. doing audio stuff on it (protools/peak LE/digital performer) i hope god still loves me. and my father too. oh dear apple computers ? why are thy so tempting ? why are thy so expensive ? --------------------- i liberated a performa 580 !!! it's running wild!!! 68k GO !
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 06:05:45 Nice idea. Get the eMac, its a fantastic machine. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
stonent Junior Member USA 155 Posts	Posted - 22 Jun 2003 : 20:28:57 I tried installing a IDE CDRW drive in my 6360 with an external SCSI HD, but it would lock up. Also IIRC none of the beige macs supported a master with a slave device. 6360av 32/6.4/8.1 ;) SE 4/2000/FDHD/7.0.1 :) Q840av - Alive! Q650 64/2000/A/UX Woot! SGI Indy R5000SC 2 Sparc Classics, 1 IPC, 1 SS4, 1 SS5
stonent Junior Member USA 155 Posts	Posted - 22 Jun 2003 : 20:31:37 Oops, forgot to mention, I have used Toast inside Basilisk II to burn to a CDRW drive on my PC that was linked to the SCSI emulation. 6360av 32/6.4/8.1 ;) SE 4/2000/FDHD/7.0.1 :) Q840av - Alive! Q650 64/2000/A/UX Woot! SGI Indy R5000SC 2 Sparc Classics, 1 IPC, 1 SS4, 1 SS5

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