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maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 01 Dec 2002 : 05:18:01 I have recently maxed out my LC630. Try and see if you can beat it. The current specs are: 33 Mhz full '040 52 megs of RAM 6 gig HD AppleCD 1200i (8x internal CD ROM) External 6x TEAC CD-R burner DOS card with 8 meg 72 pin SIMM Apple CS1 10BaseT RJ-45 ethernet card Apple Video System, connected to Panasonic VCR, model SD250 Apple Presentation System, is carried around with system when going places 14" Macintosh Colour Display, doesn't display red....goddamn the PAF for not letting me get a new monitor! Mac OS 8.1 Windows 95 Da Rules: The machine you list must be one of the following: Any Macintosh LC/Performa/Quadra 63x series, including the DOS Compatibles Any LC/Performa 580 or 588 Any "Takkyfied" Colour Classics with 630 series boards PowerPC upgrade cards are allowed, but if you swapped in a PowerPC Performa mobo, your Mac is no longer a 630, and is no longer qualified to compete But yeah. Lets see what ya have! Mine runs like a dream. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 01 Dec 2002 : 16:43:12 quote: quote: 33 Mhz full '040 Overclock it! dana Can't. That requires guts y'see, something i don't have. Btw, an amendment to the rules. PPC Performas that have had their logic boards replaced with 630 or 580 series boards are also eligable. For example, if you find a poor, lonely Performa 5200 abandoned on the side of the road, and you find the only problem it has is a fried mobo, and you replace it with a 630 mobo, that counts, as the machine now goes under the name Performa 580. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance. - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6 Edit - rules, not fules. Whats with this? Did that PC that bit me yesterday give me some sort of a disease? Edited by - maclover5 on 01 Dec 2002 16:47:00
foetoid Full Member USA 554 Posts	Posted - 01 Dec 2002 : 17:02:42 alright, you asked for it... i had an LC 580 that had 40meg of RAM in it and a 500MB HD and a full 040 processor swaped into it. Big whoop you say? I haven't finished yet. I had 8.1 installed on it and almost every aspect of the operating system and most applications had been edited to my personal liking which consisted of just some personal arrangement of things, and Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen all over the place... I was obsessed then... had over 200 images of them then and to think if I were still infatuated with them, I may have thousands.... creepy eh? ________________ foetoid, that's (fee-toy-duh) http://www.foetoid.doesntexist.com
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 01 Dec 2002 : 22:20:58 Ohmigod! -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6
foetoid Full Member USA 554 Posts	Posted - 02 Dec 2002 : 05:24:35 you know, it was ok back then... 2 or 3 years ago.... they an I share the same age, but it seems like it's hard for people to picture them out of the 5 yr old stage. They are quite attractive now days, but I've got me a real and tangible girl, so who needs to be obsessed over stars that you're likely never to meet? ________________ foetoid, that's (fee-toy-duh) http://www.foetoid.doesntexist.com
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 02 Dec 2002 : 17:33:43 Exactly. And i guess then the LC 580 became the Biege iMac, which, as we all know, melted? -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6
oldmacman Full Member USA 713 Posts	Posted - 02 Dec 2002 : 18:47:12 quote: who needs to be obsessed over stars that you're likely never to meet? Wes is dead, and I'm still obsessed with his music. If you haven't heard him yet, pick up Smoking at the Half Note, Incredible Jazz Guitar, or Full House RIGHT NOW! That is some of the most sophisticated yet melodic music that I've ever heard, in the same league as Hindemith's works for horn. What's the point in meeting a star when you won't have anything to talk to them about? I met Pat Metheny (one of my idols) a couple weeks ago, and we chatted quite a bit. Nice guy, really. He said he doesn't think about soloing any more than he thinks about nouns, verbs, and adjectives when he's conversing. Scary. BTW, Wes is Wes Montgomery, if you're completely ignorant and un-cultured. Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert Macs Liberated: SE (2), LC, IIsi, PB 145b, Quadra 700 (2), LC 575, 6100 (2), PB 5300, PowerMac 5400/200, Performa 6400/180 PCs liberated from Windoze: 3
catsdorule Senior Member Canada 1627 Posts	Posted - 02 Dec 2002 : 20:17:20 I can't beat that lol "Some people have a way about them that seems to say: "If I have only one life to live, let me live it as a jerk." " -danny ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3
foetoid Full Member USA 554 Posts	Posted - 02 Dec 2002 : 21:55:04 quote: Exactly. And i guess then the LC 580 became the Biege iMac, which, as we all know, melted? hey! it was cool while it lasted! the 6400 board was fine and im actually using it in its case now... the monitor and top of the case on the other hand... well... lets just say they had a traumatic experience. Anyway, I'm doing something similar with my Q700 now, just not involving the Olsen twins or any stars of any kind. just a customization thing... haven't done any mods in a while and I miss it. and OldMacMan, when i said the thing about being obsessed with stars.... i meant, well, sort of having little fantasies of meeting them and hangin with em, marryin them and other wierd stuff like that... anyway... ________________ foetoid, that's (fee-toy-duh) http://www.foetoid.doesntexist.com
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 02 Dec 2002 : 22:47:50 well my 575 had 36 of RAM, the 28.8 modem, a complete adjustable keybaord, cables, rests, manual, box disk and all, it 350MB HDD, 2x CD drive... an external SupraEXPRESS 56k MDM and also it has ethernet inside of it. I believe that I've used it as a main computer before.... certainly... ;) it also quote: 14" Macintosh Colour Display, doesn't display red....goddamn the PAF for not letting me get a new monitor! so I can display red!!!! and the VRAM is maxed oot.... upgraded with the full 40MHz 040 (not overclocked) runnin MacOS 8.1 (mine's the CS modem, and an LC PDS ethernet card) umm???? anything else??? oYEAH! mine's never really had problems... and I was goin to put a 1.2 GB HDD into it.... quote: you can beat it. The current specs are: 33 Mhz full '040 ALMOST as if it's one of those everchanging type of computers... LOL YEAH RIGHT!!! poor poor me! If I wwere to get really into the 6200 often... i wouldn't have hands anymore! the thing always cut me up so bad... but THAT would've had 72MB RAM... ethernet, 28.8, 800MB HDD, 2X 300i from performa and lots of love and care Official 68k videographer
mathgeek Junior Member USA 113 Posts	Posted - 03 Dec 2002 : 14:35:17 well, the only thing my 636 has over yours is that you didn't max out the ram. Why only 52MB? I have 64 and I've heard it can take even more. I also have the TV/video system, which like your video system can connect to a vcr, but I can also watch TV with an antenna hooked up. mathgeek 68K Macs Liberated: LC, Performa 636, Mac Classic II My Powerbook 1400 page http://www.its.caltech.edu/~dgoulet/1400
alcoa Full Member Albania 543 Posts	Posted - 03 Dec 2002 : 15:08:56 quote: PowerPC upgrade cards are allowed, but if you swapped in a PowerPC Performa mobo, your Mac is no longer a 630, and is no longer qualified to compete SAYS YOU! Eat my 104MB RAM/14 Gig HDD, 400MHz G3/1360 x1024x24bit Radius Thunder 1600/30 Full length PCI Graphics Card equipped 630's dust! jt p.s. the video feed is just a buton push away from 640x480 from the onboard video display for FM/TV Tuner and the VCR/DVD feed to the Video System to fill the 21" monitor! . . . and I've got a 5.1 Home Theatre System too!
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 04 Dec 2002 : 21:59:18 quote: SAYS YOU! Eat my 104MB RAM/14 Gig HDD, 400MHz G3/1360 x1024x24bit Radius Thunder 1600/30 Full length PCI Graphics Card equipped 630's dust! jt p.s. the video feed is just a buton push away from 640x480 from the onboard video display for FM/TV Tuner and the VCR/DVD feed to the Video System to fill the 21" monitor! . . . and I've got a 5.1 Home Theatre System too! Yeah, but its no longer a real 630!!! -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6
alpaca2500 Junior Member USA 102 Posts	Posted - 05 Dec 2002 : 17:42:25 here's mine. not as good as some of yours, but it impresses my PC friends when i mention it's 8 yrs old: Performa 630 33mhz 68040 68 MB Ram 250 MB SCSI HD (the IDE one died... i should be getting an 800 Meg IDE soon though) as soon as the SCSI isnt being used by a hard drive, my 300i CD-Rom Drive will go in there i have the TV/Video system, hooked up to my digital cable Etherwave PDS Ethernet Card (basically ethernet in/out) also, an AppleVision 1710AV running at 800x600 Currently serving web, ftp, email, running AIM, and being my only TV future plans... bigger hard drive, comm slot ethernet, some kind of pds card (sound? processor upgrade? DOS card? MPEG System? whatever i can find) maybe a TV/FM tuner -- Performa 630 LCIII SE
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 08 Dec 2002 : 16:00:55 quote: some kind of pds card (sound? processor upgrade? DOS card? MPEG System? whatever i can find) maybe a TV/FM tuner Depends. If you want to do a lot of sound stuff on it, you might find a PAS 16 sound card handy. I'm quite happy with the onboard sound, though. If you want to play MPEG movies on your Mac, you'll need an MPEG card to accellerate the process. Likewise, if you want to check out some of the old DOS games, you'll find a DOS Compatible mobo indispensible. However, this is one upgrade where you will need to do a full-out mobo swap with a DOS Compatible logic board, which has a daughtercard containing the Mac's '040 chip and the PC stuff, unless you can find someone willing to just sell you the DOS component from their mobo. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 15 Dec 2002 : 17:14:37 WHY do none of you treat your macs to the TV/FM system!!! the only reason that I don't have one by now is that my ahem 6200 didn't work and idont think I'll be getting the 6500.... ahem ever although... if I did get the 6500 I would put a TV/video/FM set into it!!!! get TVFM sets!!!! hehehe... if ONLY apple had made a projector! I bet you'd love that! just kinda... duct tape it to the top and just use that all the time ;) Official 68k videographer
alcoa Full Member Albania 543 Posts	Posted - 15 Dec 2002 : 17:42:57 quote: WHY do none of you treat your macs to the TV/FM system!!! the only reason that I don't have one by now is that my ahem 6200 didn't work and idont think I'll be getting the 6500.... ahem ever although... if I did get the 6500 I would put a TV/video/FM set into it!!!! get TVFM sets!!!! I got one but I haven't had time to try it out yet, I did test the MPEG Video System yesterday tho. I played three of the VCD's included in the package and I was VERY dissapointed with the performance. Nobody does anything with VCD's anymore anyway, but I was hoping for better from a hardware decoder, especially at such low resolutions. The card looks to be useful as a TeleConferencing or mpegdec kind of audio soultion if a way can be found to make an MPEG1 data stream from a modem, RAM-Disk, HDD or any other source look like it's coming from a CD drive tho. jt
~tl Junior Member United Kingdom 312 Posts	Posted - 09 Feb 2003 : 12:11:10 quote: I have recently maxed out my LC630. Try and see if you can beat it. well ... ill stay out of this contest ... sorry conversation .... cos my P630 is currently dead ... tho if it was working it would be pretty much a stock 630 DOS .... with 8MB ram on both sides Orcadian MLA Division 68ks Liberated: 2
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 10 Feb 2003 : 14:57:17 :P my 630... well I don't have one... I used to have one, minus ten, with a zero appended to the rear.... nice little BROKEN machine Official 68k videographer
alpaca2500 Junior Member USA 102 Posts	Posted - 10 Feb 2003 : 20:43:57 update on my Performa 630: 33 MHz 68040 (i may overclock it... i have a Q630 that i'll experiment on) 68 MB RAM 1 GB IDE hard drive (i may have a 40 for it) Apple CDi 300 TV/Video system MPEG Media system Apple Presentation system Comm slot ethernet card AppleVision 1710av i still need a TV/FM tuner to replace the TV only one.or, i may transplant the video stuff into my 6200, and keep this one as just a server... we'll see... -- 3 Mac SEs, 1 Classic II, 1 LC, 1 LCIII, 1 Quadra 610, 1 Performa 630, 1 Quadra 630, 1 Performa 6200, 1 iMac DV 400
Brett B. Junior Member USA 105 Posts	Posted - 11 Feb 2003 : 22:19:43 i'll add mine here, too: 33MHz Full '040 52MB RAM 3.2gig HD Comm slot ethernet AppleCD 300i (getting a 1200i soon) DOS card with 32MB RAM MultiScan 14 Display External Harmon/Kardon speakers (shared with G3) Mac OS 8.1 Window 95
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 11 Feb 2003 : 22:27:58 quote: i'll add mine here, too: DOS card with 32MB RAM Window 95 You 95'd the DOS Card? I didn't think that'd work on the 630 card? jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 12 Feb 2003 : 16:42:24 quote: You 95'd the DOS Card? I didn't think that'd work on the 630 card? jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF Yep! It sure does! -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
Brett B. Junior Member USA 105 Posts	Posted - 13 Feb 2003 : 23:07:48 quote: quote: You 95'd the DOS Card? I didn't think that'd work on the 630 card? jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF Yep! It sure does! second that! Win95 is a bit laggy on it though.
Slomac636 Junior Member USA 103 Posts	Posted - 31 May 2003 : 16:44:46 Okay, I'll tell you about my 636 too: 72 Mb RAM 33 Mhz 68040 1.5 Gb Hd (IDE Apple, from a dead 7200) AppleVision 15" display CD-Rom 1.44 Floppy Apple ADB Ext Keyboard Apple ADB Mouse 56k Modem Personal LW300 Yea, it ain't hot-rodded, no TV card, but it will play MP3 files and does surf the net with Earthlink 2.2 Macs Liberated: 9 - 6400/180 (main Mac), 660AV, 636CD, LCIII+, LCII (2), Classic II, Classic and SE. See my system: www.pbase.com/image/9129025
Cody Starting Member 1 Posts	Posted - 02 Jun 2003 : 10:52:03 I have a DP 1.42 GHZ 2 GB of RAM 2 DVD-RW drives Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum-24 bit :)
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 02 Jun 2003 : 15:08:24 Lemme guess, you hacked it into a 630 case? "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
Christophillis Forums Squadron Commander USA 688 Posts	Posted - 18 Jun 2003 : 22:16:13 Why would you need two Superdrives? -------------------- Christophillis- Portable Squadren Commander 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Total 68k Macs Liberated: 6.02x10^23 Or just 6
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 19 Jun 2003 : 07:54:57 Might come in handy. A SuperDrive and Combo drive would suffice though. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
riquez Starting Member United Kingdom 3 Posts	Posted - 21 Jun 2003 : 06:23:02 Hi, I picked up (rescued, i mean) an old LC630 for £10 !! & plan to bring back from the grave. Can anyone offer advice as to what i can upgrade on it? I've got a spare 4gig IDE HD from my iMac (rev b) - i believe the lc630 was the first IDE mac, will i be able to fit that 4gig drive? I've installed system 7 as it wouldnt accept my 8.6 or 9.1 discs - is this a firmware issue, what do i need to do to get one of theses systems on the LC? Is a processor upgrade possible? where should i look for one? Finally, I'd like to get it internet savvey, i've got an old external v.90 56k modem - there is no modem in the LC, but there is some sort of round telephone connection port - what should i do? Prehaps a network card would be best - then i could have fun networking it to my imac? I'm really not sure, I am very unfamiliar with this older technology. Don't laugh, but i'm also not sure how to get the case off the damn thing! Hope you can help - thanks Riquez UPDATE OK, so i had a tinker about anyway & got the case open. The HD comes out really easy, but it doesnt like my imac's IDE. It does have OS X on though!! My system 7.5.3 installer is from apple downloads, so its not a boot disc, how can i make a boot disc so i can boot from that & wipe the 4gig IDE drive? UPDATE Edited by - riquez on 21 Jun 2003 08:11:53
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 21 Jun 2003 : 10:06:48 quote: UPDATE OK, so i had a tinker about anyway & got the case open. The HD comes out really easy, but it doesnt like my imac's IDE. It does have OS X on though!! My system 7.5.3 installer is from apple downloads, so its not a boot disc, how can i make a boot disc so i can boot from that & wipe the 4gig IDE drive? UPDATE The 630 manuals and boot disk images and info are available on gamba. (links are on the MLA site or click on the period in my sig and it's the first entry in the links project) jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
~tl Junior Member United Kingdom 312 Posts	Posted - 21 Jun 2003 : 11:17:28 as for the processor ... you can replace the LC040 with a full 040 (from a quadra series 040 mac) ... which will give you an FPU Orcadian MLA Division 68ks Liberated: 2
riquez Starting Member United Kingdom 3 Posts	Posted - 22 Jun 2003 : 07:27:54 Thanks guys. I hooked up an external frog drive to boot from, & added the 4gig drive to the LC630 - but then the system complains "Large volumes over 4gig are not supported by this system" Sooo, I need OS 8.1 right? Is OS 8.1 avail to DL anywhere? Will it install with only 8Mb ram & the standard LC630 processor? (I will add more ram later) I know nothing about 040 & FPU - what does it all mean? I am a child of the G3 generation :) Is there a internet store that you could recommend to get a new processor? Riquez
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 22 Jun 2003 : 10:25:44 quote: "Large volumes over 4gig are not supported by this system" Sooo, I need OS 8.1 right? Is OS 8.1 avail to DL anywhere? Will it install with only 8Mb ram & the standard LC630 processor? (I will add more ram later) 8.1 may be available illegally on hotline somewhere, but it's still a commercial product from Apple, AFAIK. If you can nab a CD cheaply somewhere (eBay, or the like) that'd be the way to go. You can probably get the bootable Disk Tools FDD image off the links on Gamba to test it in 8 MB of RAM. Partition the drive and stick with the OS you have for now would be my advice. jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 22 Jun 2003 : 20:40:48 There's also a "Macintosh Processor upgrade" for your 630 that fits into your CPU slot and gives you a 50 Mhz PPC 601. And yes, x2xx and x3xx mobos will all fit in and work, apart from the 6360, which uses the same board as the 5400. 5500 and 6500 boards will also work, and regulate the required 3.3v by themselves, to a point. If you want to use PCI expansion cards or go G3, you'll need to add a 3.3v regulator to an x500 board. If not, it'll just slide in and work fine. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 26 Jun 2003 : 22:41:51 hehehe... you're going to downgrade that nice LC to a powermac??? Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life"
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 26 Jun 2003 : 23:32:25 No i'm not. As for drives, well, due to the death of the 6 gigger, my LC630 currently has a 40 megger in it. Its in there, loaded with 7.6.1, so i can still use the machine while i await funding for a 20 or 40 gig HD for the machine. Man i'm looking forward to getting a new HD for that thing though. 40 gigs sure is a lot of video..... "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
riquez Starting Member United Kingdom 3 Posts	Posted - 27 Jun 2003 : 00:05:46 quote: Partition the drive and stick with the OS you have for now would be my advice. How can i do this if the system wont see the 4gig drive????
jjjarmon Starting Member USA 7 Posts	Posted - 27 Jun 2003 : 17:13:01 I just picked up 2 older performas at a thrift store for $10. One was a Mac Performa 636CD with 20 megs of Ram and the other Performa was a 638CD model with 36 megs of RAM.It even had the Apple TV system built into it.I believe that I got both for very cheap. Original Macintosh owner
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 27 Jun 2003 : 19:18:20 quote: quote: Partition the drive and stick with the OS you have for now would be my advice. How can i do this if the system wont see the 4gig drive???? Should automatically see it. Have you partitioned it properly using Drive Setup or FWB Hard Disk Toolkit? "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
jjjarmon Starting Member USA 7 Posts	Posted - 02 Jul 2003 : 23:21:15 Hi Riquez I found a site that has Mac OS8 available for download it's at http://www.hot.ee/macgames/ The Mac OS 8.1 upgrade can be found at Apple's web site.I found OS8 and 8.5 CD's at a thrift store. Original Macintosh owner

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