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olePigeon

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@JDW User @iwakurarein just uploaded backups of a bunch of disks of early 128k prototype software that he found (speculation that they were Apple internal development floppies), including one called "MacTalk."

It might be worth downloading and checking it out.  A small chance that MacTalk was the app they used?  Maybe it can be modified?

 
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Dog Cow

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@JDW User @iwakurarein just uploaded backups of a bunch of disks of early 128k prototype software that he found (speculation that they were Apple internal development floppies)
They're almost certainly not from Apple, nor development floppies. I analyzed the disks over the summer when he sent them to me and determined that in all likelihood they are public domain distribution disks from a Macintosh user's group. It was very common for pre-release software to be distributed via user groups and BBS. Betas of just about all of Apple's software: MacTerminal, Finder, MacWrite, etc. were distributed this way.

Note that in his first post in that thread he asks about "public domain" original volume label on the disks. That's because I'd already told him my conclusions about their origin.

 
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JDW

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Athens it is. @JDW are you trying to do a replica?
:)  

Getting the actual software used to create that full screen "Hello, I'm Macintosh..." running on a Mac 128k or 512k isn't something I've been able to obtain, so I'm trying to creatively incorporate about 10 seconds or so of that old 1984 Intro video into a forthcoming video about vintage Mac cooling fans.  My intention is just to use it in passing to very briefly mention the original compact Macintosh series (until the SE in 1987) lacked an internal fan due to Jobs insistence and proactive role in shaping the machine's design.  Having it display on an actual Mac rather than display the clip full screen is my goal.  I've actually been able to achieve it to my satisfaction, so I'll post the link when the video is finished, before it goes Public, so you gentlemen can give me feedback.  I still have a lot more work to do on that video, so it's still more than a week away from being finished.

 

Alex

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Nice find!  Thanks!
I have nearly 1.5 thousands optical discs, of which nearly 100% are Macintosh related so I should be able to find missing material but not always. In this case it showed up in a database search.

Most of what I have is on archive.org. I upload it to the fortress of solitude FTP which is run by Jason Scott and from there he feeds the archive. I am constantly uploading material but not for the last few months. I will return to uploading more material in the coming weeks. I just thought I would put this out there.

If I am not mistaken it came from this item, https://archive.org/details/1.5_million_font_files_collection. However, in this case it was a loose file on my system that was pulled from an optical disk and uploaded here.

Hope the font serves you well for future projects.

Cheers!

 
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ArmorAlley

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I have nearly 1.5 thousands optical discs, of which nearly 100% are Macintosh related so I should be able to find missing material but not always. In this case it showed up in a database search.
Maybe a RAID NAS with 2x 1TB drives might worth your while. There are some great disk-cataloguing apps, like Diskeeper, available.

 

Crutch

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Athens was a standard font in early System versions also, so if you have an early System or Write/Paint floppy it likely has Athens on it.  (The original bitmap font, not the TrueType version).

 

iwakurarein

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each full screen image of the apps is about 22 kb of space but I don't see that program even reaching close to the full 400 kb disk if it was written in assembly (which, let's face it, in 1983 when it was probably developped, it was) or even a lean & mean THINK C project (which was, of course, absolutely not possible back then).
lol what sure it was, MEGAROIDS ][ is written in a dialect of Borland C and I can run that on my SE with 6.0.8 and Multifinder. I have NEC 9-chip 80ns SIMMs and 4MB. 

(Really now, have we read all the documentation on each page dug up by Winterlast on Mac Garden, or not? As well as the history of DUsers? Its all there. Its all explained.

Deal with me on there. Or Overclock.net where I have 346 rep and actually have modern computers, not Mac Minis or whatever you people use. 

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Get real, I'm better than you.

A lot of issues with small pricks here

Get Bent.

Ban me. Don't care. I can afford not to anyway.

ごきげんよう。
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JDW

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Get real, I'm better than you.

A lot of issues with small pricks here

Get Bent.

Ban me. Don't care. I can afford not to anyway.
上記を書いた理由が全く理解できません。但し、下記のページに色々な面白いソフトをアップしてくれたので、本当に感謝です!

https://macintoshgarden.org/users/iwakurarein

For the rest of you who speak English, take note there are 2 pages of uploaded software links on Iwakura's Macintosh Garden page.

 

jessenator

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Who would would saddle up for this kind of windmill tilting thinking the average user age on the forum begins with a "1" ?

:lol:

 

Crutch

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Back on topic, I recognized that very nice Athens-18 font in JDW’s excellent fan video.  What a great slab-serif font. 

 

JDW

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Back on topic, I recognized that very nice Athens-18 font in JDW’s excellent fan video.  What a great slab-serif font. 
Glad to see someone noticed! :)  Playing back that segment in the original video would have been impossible to see, which is why I recreated the first part of that text using the original font.

Even so, it appears that no one reads the Text Description under videos on YouTube.  In that particular text description I asked if anyone knew how I got that video to play back on an old Mac they should comment under my video.  So far, no one has done that.  Hint: I did not fake it by overlaying a video onto a blank screen in FCPX, if that's what you're all thinking!

 

Crutch

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OK that’s amazing, I definitely assumed you faked it.  How did you do that?  How did you even shoot video of an old Mac CRT without getting CRT refresh flicker/artifacts?  (I assume that’s easy to do by matching frame rates or something, but I’m a total video novice.)

 
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