Trying to get my Asante ethernet card to work on my Mac SE/30

[wildstar1063]

I'm trying to get my Asante network card to work with my SE/30. I am using an Apple AirPort Extreme router, the tall kind not the flat one. And I have set the network settings as shown in the picture. I can see it on my network with my Mac Studio using a program called iNet Network Scanner but when I try to use Netscape to go to a web page it just gives me Netscape is unable to locate the server www.frogfind.com the server does not have a DNS entry. I'm just using the regular Google DNS servers 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 which work just fine on my Mac studio. I'm using the manual setup with a static IP setup in the router. This card only has two jumpers on the daughter card, one to force aui, which I have disabled and one to force a link test which I have also disabled Any idea what I'm doing wrong here?

Chuck E.






Here is what the iNet scanner on my Mac Studio see's

 

[wildstar1063]

Oh yeah, I'm using open transport on Mac OS 8.0 currently.
Chuck E

 

[LaPorta]

What are your cable provider DNSes that show up on your AirPort Extreme. I’d use those.

 

[wildstar1063]

Well, it looks like I found the problem. I had the DNS servers in the wrong box. I moved them over to the box on the left and
Now everything is working just fine. Frog find came right up. I probably need a better browser than Netscape 1.1
but it will get me to most of the sites the SE/30 is capable of viewing anyway.

Thanks for looking.
Recapping and setting up this SE/30 has been quite an experience so far.
I have an original newton, message pad, and at some point I'll probably try to install
The software for it.

Chuck E.

 

[LaPorta]

Doh! I’m sorry I should have noticed that from your photo! Good catch.

 

[wildstar1063]

Doh! I’m sorry I should have noticed that from your photo! Good catch.

I didn't realize what the issue was myself until I found a PDF of the installation and
set up manual for open transport, online, and I noticed where they put the DNS
addresses wasn't where I had mine.

What I don't understand is why the DCHP setting doesn't do anything at all, when I chose it,
none of the boxes populated, that was when I went to the manual set up. On my Amiga
Computers when I choose DCHP everything populates like it should. Maybe it's the version
of open transport I'm using. It's whatever the default version is that comes with Mac OS 8.0.

Chuck E.

 

[LaPorta]

I didn't realize what the issue was myself until I found a PDF of the installation and
set up manual for open transport, online, and I noticed where they put the DNS
addresses wasn't where I had mine.

What I don't understand is why the DCHP setting doesn't do anything at all, when I chose it,
none of the boxes populated, that was when I went to the manual set up. On my Amiga
Computers when I choose DCHP everything populates like it should. Maybe it's the version
of open transport I'm using. It's whatever the default version is that comes with Mac OS 8.0.

Chuck E.

Usually, in those older systems, you never see them populate. You set it to that, close the control panel and choose save when it asks. Then, if you re-open the control panel, you will see the DHCP assigned numbers.

 

[mikes-macs]

What I don't understand is why the DCHP setting doesn't do anything at all, when I chose it,
none of the boxes populated

Yeah, usually DHCP won't auto populate until you send a TCP request by loading a website or some other TCP request. So set it up and then close the TCP/IP Control Panel and load a Website or FTP request and it should auto populate. TBH you're better off to leave it manual as it is and you'll always have that same local IP address.
Also, in the Edit menu there is User Mode where you can select advanced settings, then hit the option button, and a popup asks if you want TCP to load on boot (always active), if so then it will auto populate on boot.

 

[wildstar1063]

Ok, I was able to get DCHP to work by using the User Mode To make it active all the time and
Saving the setup and re-booting. Since I have the router set for a Static IP for the Asante´ cards Mac
Address, the settings look like my Manual settings. But now I have a saved set up for both manual
and DCHP for the card.

Now for the next question. I have the BlueSCSI desktop mounted inside my SE/30 and it has the
Wi-Fi module. Can I set up the Wi-Fi along with the Assante´ card and just choose back-and-forth
between them? Or will there be some kind of conflict? I will probably use the RJ45 connection
most of the time because the instructions on the BlueSCSI site say that the Dyna Port is kind of slow.

Chuck E.

 

[LaPorta]

If configured properly with extensions, etc, it should work just fine. You can use either the Network or AppleTalk control panels to choose which network interface you are using (the control panel depends on what system/version of TCP/IP you are running).

 

[mikes-macs]

Without ever owning and researching the Blue SCSI products, I cannot offer much help with those. It appears you're asking if the SE/30 can have two network interfaces attached? The answer is yes. Each Network Interface Card owns a MAC address, the IP address is assigned to that. They will be unique Mac addresses and therefore unique IP addresses. Since AppleTalk can be flaky over WIFI I suggest using the Asante for AppleTalk by selecting it in the AppleTalk Control Panel, while using Blue SCSI for TCP/IP since you're not going to get a really fast internet connection regardless, by selecting it in the TCP/IP Control Panel.