really cheap LC II

[LCGuy]

Actually, you'd be quite surprised, System 6 is actually very very fast on an LCII...a lot faster than System 7. If anything you'll be a lot better off running it on an LCII than a Classic II, as the LCII supports colour, and can run the full 6.08 (the Classic II will only run 6.08L)

 

[tomlee59]

I believe you. I just didn't want a road apple to run it on.

The Road Apple designation doesn't automatically mean "POS." It can mean that it's just less than it could have been. That's the case with the LCII. It'll run system 6 with impressive speed. And as the OP noted, these can often be found for next to nothing.

 

[MacTCP]

I'm glad I didn't buy the LC II because I found something better.I know it's slower, but it's cleaner, has keyboard/mouse, and is a compact.

 

[John8520]

Thats hardly cheaper, its about three times as expensive as that LCII... I guess you overlooked the $43 shipping...

 

[MacTCP]

It's only $21.76 for shipping where I live.

 

[Quadraman]

For me, the best part of an LC/LC II (and III, I guess) is that you can put an Apple IIe card in one, and emulate an Apple IIe.
In order to do this, you have to be running in 24-bit mode, and not 32-bit. Buuuuuttttttt, running in 24 bit mode, it can only recognize max 10mb of memory, no matter how much memory you had in there.

I thought the LC and LCII can only recognise 10 MB anyway? I think that is one of the reasons many think of these two as "crippled".

As for the IIe emulation, yes, that would be cool, but you'd have to be lucky to find an LC that came with the card, or be willing to pay eBay prices for one

The LC and LCII also run the bus at half the bandwith that the CPU is capable of so whenever the CPU has to go off chip for anything, it is SSSSSLLLLLOOOOOWWWWW.

 

[tomlee59]

It is amazing that the LCII is about as fast as an LC, according to most benchmarks, despite the LCII's '030 under the hood (bonnet). It takes a special engineering effort to pull off that trick.

 

[Quadraman]

It is amazing that the LCII is about as fast as an LC, according to most benchmarks, despite the LCII's '030 under the hood (bonnet). It takes a special engineering effort to pull off that trick.

That's what happens when the bus bottlenecks the processor. The 030 in the LCII runs faster than the 020 in the LC, but only internally. Once it has to access something on the bus it runs at either the same speed, or slower if the bus becomes saturated.

 

[Blessed Cheesemaker]

The LC and LCII also run the bus at half the bandwith that the CPU is capable of so whenever the CPU has to go off chip for anything, it is SSSSSLLLLLOOOOOWWWWW.

I guarentee it is not as SSSLLLLOOOOWWWW as a POS Intel 486 running Windows 95 [] ]'>

Speed is relative...my G4 with the 1.4Ghz Sonnet upgrade even slows down at time. Of course, since I put in the SATA card, it has sped up a bit, as the built in 66Mhz ATA bus was the real bottleneck, in many cases (iTunes, copying large files, etc).

In any event, with System 6, and the few things I plan on doing with the LC, my 40-50wpm typing will probably be the biggest slow-er down-er of the system (that, and the slow drive...I plan on using it to finally image and convert to CD my old Apple IIGS disks). [] ]'>