Corgi
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I have a new-to-me PB 1400cs/166 as part of a large haul (which I shall post about further some day…) and I'm having quite a time trying to boot anything on it.
The original 1.3GB ATA drive is giving up the ghost, and I've decided to replace it with a 4 GB CF card since the OEM drive sometimes will not even spin up. I haven't yet imaged the original, so I used my Pismo to initialise it with Drive Setup then ran Apple Software Restore to the CF from the 1400 restore CD. When I put the CF card in an internal CF adaptor, it doesn't recognise any System (flashing disk/? icon). When I put the CF card in a PCMCIA adaptor, it shows a Happy Mac and then immediately ejects the card. If I stuff it back in quick enough it'll go back to a flashing disk; otherwise it will Sad Mac with 0000000F/00000001 (which I am assuming is because it ejected the boot disk).
I've tried both the 7.6 and 8.0 restore media for the 1400, and both have ended this same way. I noticed on EveryMac that the 1400cs/166 came with 8.0, so it's possible it may not boot 7.6. Ideally, I'd love to dual-boot 7.6 and 8.6 on it – my original plan was a ~3ish GB partition for 8, and a 1300 MB partition for 7.6 (same size as the OEM drive).
The CF card is one of the ones that shows as a fixed disk, not removable – and the same CF card will boot a Wallstreet and a Toshiba Satellite of similar vintage.
I thought perhaps this is because I used Drive Setup on the Pismo to initialise it and maybe the drivers from 9.2 aren't good enough for it. I created a Disk Tools floppy from the image on the 8.1 CD (Disk Tools PPC) and… it does the same thing. Shows Happy Mac, then ejects the floppy and goes back to a flashing disk icon. This could of course be a failing floppy mechanism, but I can't be sure. It won't show the Happy Mac without a System Folder, so it is reading something.
I tried to put Mac OS 8.6 on the CF card. I don't have another working laptop (yet!) of this vintage, the oldest being the Pismo, so I had to drop the System Folder from the install CD in (as the installer wouldn't run). Still nothing in the internal adaptor, but the PCMCIA adaptor showed a Mac OS logo briefly before complaining that you can't copy the System Folder from the install CD anywhere else
I have seen this thing boot the Mac OS with the original drive at one point (before it went flaky), so I'm fairly confident the logic board isn't to blame. I love the keyboard on the 1400 series and really want to see this machine working again.
Any tips? Am I right that the Pismo's Drive Setup may have borked the drivers on the CF card? Is it worth it to try and get the OEM drive to work one last time and image it to the CF card as a starting point? Is there a reason the Apple Software Restore wouldn't work to a CF card, or why it would be so picky about booting off of it?
The original 1.3GB ATA drive is giving up the ghost, and I've decided to replace it with a 4 GB CF card since the OEM drive sometimes will not even spin up. I haven't yet imaged the original, so I used my Pismo to initialise it with Drive Setup then ran Apple Software Restore to the CF from the 1400 restore CD. When I put the CF card in an internal CF adaptor, it doesn't recognise any System (flashing disk/? icon). When I put the CF card in a PCMCIA adaptor, it shows a Happy Mac and then immediately ejects the card. If I stuff it back in quick enough it'll go back to a flashing disk; otherwise it will Sad Mac with 0000000F/00000001 (which I am assuming is because it ejected the boot disk).
I've tried both the 7.6 and 8.0 restore media for the 1400, and both have ended this same way. I noticed on EveryMac that the 1400cs/166 came with 8.0, so it's possible it may not boot 7.6. Ideally, I'd love to dual-boot 7.6 and 8.6 on it – my original plan was a ~3ish GB partition for 8, and a 1300 MB partition for 7.6 (same size as the OEM drive).
The CF card is one of the ones that shows as a fixed disk, not removable – and the same CF card will boot a Wallstreet and a Toshiba Satellite of similar vintage.
I thought perhaps this is because I used Drive Setup on the Pismo to initialise it and maybe the drivers from 9.2 aren't good enough for it. I created a Disk Tools floppy from the image on the 8.1 CD (Disk Tools PPC) and… it does the same thing. Shows Happy Mac, then ejects the floppy and goes back to a flashing disk icon. This could of course be a failing floppy mechanism, but I can't be sure. It won't show the Happy Mac without a System Folder, so it is reading something.
I tried to put Mac OS 8.6 on the CF card. I don't have another working laptop (yet!) of this vintage, the oldest being the Pismo, so I had to drop the System Folder from the install CD in (as the installer wouldn't run). Still nothing in the internal adaptor, but the PCMCIA adaptor showed a Mac OS logo briefly before complaining that you can't copy the System Folder from the install CD anywhere else
I have seen this thing boot the Mac OS with the original drive at one point (before it went flaky), so I'm fairly confident the logic board isn't to blame. I love the keyboard on the 1400 series and really want to see this machine working again.
Any tips? Am I right that the Pismo's Drive Setup may have borked the drivers on the CF card? Is it worth it to try and get the OEM drive to work one last time and image it to the CF card as a starting point? Is there a reason the Apple Software Restore wouldn't work to a CF card, or why it would be so picky about booting off of it?