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OLPC XO-1

IPalindromeI

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Yes, that green machine. Cute, and for 40$ locally, cheap. I particularily like the screen.

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LarBob

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Nice! I have one too, grats on getting it for $40 dollars! I got mine way back when from the give one get one thing they were doing.

P.S. what happened with the shift key?

 
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Huxley

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Cool find! I followed the OLPC project closely when it was getting all the buzz ~10 years ago, but I never got around to actually ordering a machine to play with. Any impressions of what it's like to use?

 

Johnnya101

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To repair the silicone cheaply at home, do this (And for anyone else wondering)

Using about 1 cornstarch : 2 silicone formula, mix, add coloring (Spray paint is fine, you will need a lot compared to acrylic), put it on the ripped part, and wait about an hour. The silicone can be found at any hardware store as caulking, but get 100% with NO additives!

 

butterburger

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I bought one, then feeBay'd it. I believe it was the first IA32-based device to boot from SDIO (before MacBook did it). I grew fed-up and disgusted and angry about three things: that it features ScheißDigital/ShitDigital, that it features staggered keyboard (physical layout), and unobtanium proprietary power connector. IIRC, power connector is a hybrid of EIAJ sizes 4 and 5: shell from 4, pin from 5, so 5 plug cannot enter in XO receptacle, and 4 plug is loose and pin does not make contact in XO receptacle.

 

Paralel

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The power connector in particular seems like a bad idea. I wonder why they chose something so odd.

 

IPalindromeI

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I bought one, then feeBay'd it. I believe it was the first IA32-based device to boot from SDIO (before MacBook did it). I grew fed-up and disgusted and angry about three things: that it features ScheißDigital/ShitDigital, that it features staggered keyboard (physical layout), and unobtanium proprietary power connector. IIRC, power connector is a hybrid of EIAJ sizes 4 and 5: shell from 4, pin from 5, so 5 plug cannot enter in XO receptacle, and 4 plug is loose and pin does not make contact in XO receptacle.
What strange complaints.

1. Why so much hate towards SD? Boot wise, the thing to complain about is the pointless use of OF over a standard BIOS.

2. There's far worse to complain about the keyboard beyond the fact it's staggered 0which almost all keyboards beyond keyboard enthusiast ergonomic models are) - more the tiny, barely tactile keys.

3. The power connector seems to work fine, and the adapter is tolerant.

 

aladds

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Is this a B4 model? I've got one of those that a friend had for development work.

Apart from the CPU being as slow as molasses and the internal storage being rather small, I think they're really great. The keyboard is actually quite nice to use (if small) and the screen is fantastic.

We had it set up in the hallway for local public transport departure boards for ages, if it hadn't been for memory leaks in the version of firefox it had we'd probably still be using it!

Edit: Oh, and the touchpad on the B4 needs a thin cover on it, which we're missing... so that's not too good either

 
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Cory5412

Daring Pioneer of the Future
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These machines are really neat. I wanted one back in the day. What stuff are you doing with it? It should be fine for a shellbox or an SSH terminal.
 

I believe it was the first IA32-based device to boot from SDIO (before MacBook did it).
What Mac boots from SDIO? On the Intel side of things, I only know of models that boot from SATA and PCIe.

I know of a lot of PCs that now boot from eMMC and have things like SDIO wireless, and you generally get what you'd expect for the price of the machine.

 

Gorgonops

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I know of a lot of PCs that now boot from eMMC and have things like SDIO wireless, and you generally get what you'd expect for the price of the machine.
They really make PCs with SDIO wireless cards? I haven't seen an SDIO card in the flesh for ages. Ages ago I got a Dell Axim x5 WinCE PDA as a company christmas gift, and I bought a cheap 802.11b SD-format wireless card for it. It... kind of sucked. (More Window CE's fault than the card's, to be fair.) Is it used as an internal connection standard now?

 

IPalindromeI

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Right now it's purely an SSH terminal, until I figure out how to put a better distro onto it.

And yeah, SDIO is very common amongst low end tablets and even high end ones. Surfaces use SDIO WiFi. A lot of it is due to Intel skimping on PCIe lanes though.

 

Cory5412

Daring Pioneer of the Future
Staff member
The Microsoft Surfaces RT, 2, and (probably) 3 use SDIO wireless. It works, but I vaguely wish they wouldn't.

I'm not 100% on what the netbook market is like at this point. Those might be using m.2 or SoC-integrated wireless solutions rather than SDIO.

 

Gorgonops

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Sheesh, I guess bad ideas never go away. I have problems wrapping my head around why you'd use SDIO as a board-level interconnect if you're using a SoC that can support USB2 (which should be just about anything remotely "computer-like"), but, is what it is, guess. The one attraction I can see is apparently it *can* work even in single-bit SPI mode, which would make it a reasonable option for a really minimalist IoT sort of application.

 

techfury90

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SDIO is actually *incredibly* common as a way of interfacing wifi chips in smartphones and tablets. The tablet Atom chips were designed as kind of drop-in replacements for ARM SoCs, hence their use of SDIO for the wifi interface.

 

butterburger

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What Mac boots from SDIO? On the Intel side of things, I only know of models that boot from SATA and PCIe.
Do you know of ICBM (Intel chip based Macintosh) which boot from: APT (ATA Parallel Transport, a.k.a. PATA), USB MSC, IEEE 802.3, IEEE 802.11, IEEE 1394 SBP, and Thunderbolt UTDM?

Apple Mac firmware has awareness of SDIO/SDHC (this instance of SDHC refers to ShitDigital Host Controller, not ShitDigital 32-bit * 512-octet), at least enough to boot from conventional SD cards. Who knows, maybe it can recognise ATA over SD, a.k.a. CE-ATA. (CE-ATA is ATA commands over SDIO. Used in, for instance, some iPod. I did not read any report of trying it with MacBook.)

Which Mac? MacBook line 2011, I know this for certain. Likely also Mac Mini, and 2010 and 2009 line. Since line 2012, Mac SD is just a USB MSC chip, connected by SuperSpeed USB to Intel chipset/platform XHCI.

 
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