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Nubus PPC Mac Speed Tips

Maccess

Well-known member
Post speedtips for Nubus PPC Macs that you've discovered or tried out in this thread.

Here are some of mine:

1) Make sure you've installed all of the recommended patches. Most important are GameSprockets, and OpenGL. These updates patch some 68K code with PPC code.

2) Run Jerry Kindall's Finder Patches for the System you've installed (version available for Mac Os 8.1 to 9.1 (9.22 also available but that doesn't run on Nubus).

http://www.jerrykindall.com/download.asp

Do yourself a favor and give the finder another 1MB of memory (instructions with the patch kit)

3) Max out your RAM. Don't use Virtual Memory. You can use RAM Doubler, but set it to File Mapping only. Even though the Nubus Macs don't officially support EDO, I've found that using strictly EDO SIMMs increases my memory throughput by 10% as tested in Newertech's utility.

One day, I'll try removing the FPM memory on the motherboard and either leaving it blank or replacing it with EDO to see what happens. I'll keep you posted. I suspect that if I can substitute that with 60ns EDO or leave it blank I can up the bus speed to 48Mhz.

4) Inserting a DA into the System File seems to make the System faster. I think this works because it keeps the mixed mode manager loaded at all times, so the System doesn't waste time switching MMM on and off. The gotcha here is that many DAs were designed for System 6, so many can crash your Mac. I use PhoneBookPro DA (part of Phonebook Plus), because it was made in 1995, after the PPC Macs were released. It hasn't caused a crash on my 7100 (8.6), or PB3400 (9.22).

http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/HyperArchive/Archive/comm/phonebook-plus-373.hqx

Remember to install the DA inside the suitcase into your System File, not the Application. You'll need Font/DA Mover 4.1 to do this. You don't need to use the DA at all. It just HAS to be there. It shows up in the Apple Menu. Interestingly, it shows up in the Apple Menu even with the Finder off (you'll be able to quit the Finder after installing finder patch)

5) Use heap tool to give the System as much as 2MB of Heap. 2MB of Heap? That's ridiculous! It helps when running MS Office 98 which loads so much stuff into the heap (you can see the unused portion of the System memory use fill up).

6) run DiskWarrior and a Disk Optimizer.

7) If you have a Radius Rocket, don't bother installing it in a Nubus PPC. Even if properly configured, it slows down the PPC with all of its archaic code.

8) Quit the Finder when you don't need it. You could install RUN and use that to launch applications or any control strip module that doesn't use the Finder to launch apps.

9) Use the HPV Card, and absolutely avoid using motherboard video. Nubus video isn't faster than HPV, so don't use a Nubus card for video unless you absolutely need it.

10) Remove unused extensions and services you don't need, like AppleTalk if you don't have a network of Macs.

 

RadioPatrol

Well-known member
9) Use the HPV Card, and absolutely avoid using motherboard video. Nubus video isn't faster than HPV, so don't use a Nubus card for video unless you absolutely need it.

HPV Card ? :?:

 

Franklinstein

Well-known member
The HPV cards were the A/V cards for the 61/71/8100-series machines (on an adapter in the 6100). There were at least two different flavors available, all markedly better than the onboard vampire video of those machines.

 

MacTV

Active member
WOW!

This is a great list. Thank you Maccess!

Regarding the HPV and AV cards versus on board video - more info is here:

http://www.kan.org/6100/graphics.html (focuses on 6100 - but covers 7100s and 8100s too)

I just installed Jerry's Finder Patches on an iBook running 9.2.1 - and it really helps - before it was chugging on the drive whenever I was in the Finder. Now it is silent! Yay!

 

MacTV

Active member
Jerry's Finder Patcher will give you extra options in the menus, including the ability to quit the Finder.

 

Bunsen

Admin-Witchfinder-General
The HPV cards were the A/V cards
No they weren't.

HPV: Mac monitor port

A/V: Mac monitor port, S-Video in and out

The HPV cards (High Performance Video) are much faster.

 

MacTV

Active member
So is the speed difference quntafiable?

Obviously it can run larger monitors since it has more vram - but how can you tell that it is faster than the AV card?

So would the speed order for a 6100 be (from slowest to fastest)

Vampire Video (on board)

Nubus card

AV card

HPV card

?

 

madmann

Well-known member
how much faster was the hpv vs the a/v card

also the 400 mhz g3 upgrade for this machine is freaking great.

running 7.6.1 it is Fast

without a doubt the 7600 / 400 is my favorite mac.

Great list though.

 

Quadraman

Well-known member
how much faster was the hpv vs the a/v card

also the 400 mhz g3 upgrade for this machine is freaking great.

running 7.6.1 it is Fast

without a doubt the 7600 / 400 is my favorite mac.

Great list though.
The 7600 isn't a Nubus Mac.

 

trag

Well-known member
The speed order is probably

A/V card

DRAM video

HPV card

With a NuBus card falling anywhere in that hierarchy depending on the model chosen. Except that for some things like playing Marathon, e.g., nothing can beat the HPV card.

 

equill

Well-known member
... also the 400 mhz g3 upgrade for this machine is freaking great.
running 7.6.1 it is Fast

without a doubt the 7600 / 400 is my favorite mac ...
The 7300 (same TNT architecture), unless you cannot do without A/V, is the crown of the beige 'G2' series, both temporally and actually. The 9600 made a brief return after being superseded by it, and I have a very strong affection for both of them. Both (given a Kansas board in a 9600) profit greatly from G3 upgrades, which support 9.2.2 with grace and speed. The 9600 wins in room for extra HDDs, but the 7300 is a lean and mean demon if your expansion dreams can be met by only(?) three PCI slots.

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Quadraman

Well-known member
... also the 400 mhz g3 upgrade for this machine is freaking great.
running 7.6.1 it is Fast

without a doubt the 7600 / 400 is my favorite mac ...
The 7300 (same TNT architecture), unless you cannot do without A/V, is the crown of the beige 'G2' series, both temporally and actually. The 9600 made a brief return after being superseded by it, and I have a very strong affection for both of them. Both (given a Kansas board in a 9600) profit greatly from G3 upgrades, which support 9.2.2 with grace and speed. The 9600 wins in room for extra HDDs, but the 7300 is a lean and mean demon if your expansion dreams can be met by only(?) three PCI slots.

de
How was the 9600 superseded by the 7300? The beige G3 temporarily knocked the 9600 of the top of the heap but didn't have enough expansion options for many users. That was why the 9600 was brought back. The 7300 also does not have as many slots, either PCI or RAM slots, so in what way is the 7300 superior?

 

bmacsys

Well-known member
... also the 400 mhz g3 upgrade for this machine is freaking great.
running 7.6.1 it is Fast

without a doubt the 7600 / 400 is my favorite mac ...
The 7300 (same TNT architecture), unless you cannot do without A/V, is the crown of the beige 'G2' series, both temporally and actually. The 9600 made a brief return after being superseded by it, and I have a very strong affection for both of them. Both (given a Kansas board in a 9600) profit greatly from G3 upgrades, which support 9.2.2 with grace and speed. The 9600 wins in room for extra HDDs, but the 7300 is a lean and mean demon if your expansion dreams can be met by only(?) three PCI slots.

de
How was the 9600 superseded by the 7300? The beige G3 temporarily knocked the 9600 of the top of the heap but didn't have enough expansion options for many users. That was why the 9600 was brought back. The 7300 also does not have as many slots, either PCI or RAM slots, so in what way is the 7300 superior?
I don't know too many people who rather have a 7300/180 or a 7300/200 over a 9600/233 or a 960/300 or a 9650/350.

 
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