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3lectr1cPPC

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I think it is replaceable, which is nice. I doubt anyone made a 3rd party upgrade though, although I haven't checked if there was a better one that Apple supplied. I'll be opening this one up at some point to install an SSD anyway, so I'll look at other upgrades when I do that.
 

3lectr1cPPC

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Another great example of how NOT to pack a rare laptop…
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Great job there… Keyboard also has at least one key that’s being stuck down somehow, I can tell because it beeps NON STOP. Gotta deal with that. And yes, those two ripped blocks of foam were genuinely the only form of “protection” that was in the box, if you could even call it that.
 

Durosity

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Just goes to show how well built those thinkpads were built if it survived with that little damage with such awful packing!
 

3lectr1cPPC

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Brittle plastics will get to all of them though. 90s models hinges are snapping left and right, and this one even is starting to stress crack around them, which seems to be a common issue on these.
 

Durosity

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Oh indeed! To be fair though I doubt the designers of these machines really considered us still using them 20 years later!
 

3lectr1cPPC

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Fair enough, though the best designs still hold up. PowerBook 100 being a great example, hinges still rock solid.
More info on the laptop, it’s a ThinkPad G40. It’s a desktop replacement system, very heavy, very thick, and (for the time), very powerful. It’s not everyday you see a laptop with a full desktop Pentium 4 Northwood! 3GHz!
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My monster Inspiron 9100 still has it beat though, it’s got a freakin’ Prescott!
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CC_333

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My gosh, those things must run HOT! As I'm sure everyone knows, the Netburst architecture (upon which the Pentium 4, including Prescott, was based) was never known for being particularly energy efficient....

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3lectr1cPPC

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Not overly so. Both have huge heat sinks, multiple fans, etc. they’re big and heavy, but that girth does keep them running at about a normal heat level for a laptop. They’re warm of course, and I’m sure they’d become quite toasty under full load, but I can actually use both on my lap without feeling like I’m being burned. The G40 is significantly less bulky though, compared to the 9100. IBM put the space to good use though, it’s got both a built in DVD+CDRW combo drive, AND a floppy drive, at once! Not uncommon in the 90s, but certainly so in 2004. In the later G41, models configured with dedicated nVidia graphics would have the GPU in place of where the floppy would go. Pretty neat! It also makes it what I believe is the last ThinkPad that can use a built in floppy drive. The T4x series ultrabay didn’t have one made. The T30 from 02 did have one available as a module, but the G40 is from 2004! Not sure about which A series models could handle one though. Perhaps @Unknown_K could clarify, he’s got at least a couple thinkpads ;)
 
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CC_333

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Huh, OK. I guess all that bulk does help with heat dissipation!

Floppy drives, if I remember correctly, weren't totally uncommon as recently as 2010, although they were pretty much obsolete and were rarely, if ever included as standard equipment (I think floppy drives were available on some models as late as 2012 or so). In 2004, however, there were still some important uses that subsequent advancements hadn't yet usurped – flash/thumb drives, for example, were still too expensive for most, and not everyone with PCs yet had a CD/DVD-R/RW drive (if anything, they had Zip drives, which burnable CDs were just beginning to overtake cost-wise); by '04, most Macs seemed to have either a Combo drive (CD-R/RW/DVD-ROM) or Super drive (CD/DVD-R/RW), which was convenient for making music CDs and stuff (the iPod was still new and novel, and not everyone had a smartphone with iPod functionality built in (that would come three years later)).

As I type, I am realizing that I miss 2004. Google (then primarily a search engine first and foremost) and Facebook (then virtually unknown outside academia) weren't yet omnipresent Internet gatekeepers, security and advertising weren't as pervasive, intrusive and obstructionist as they have since become, and Apple was still primarily a modestly-sized computer company which had only recently began expanding into services (.Mac, the iTunes Store, etc.).

Such simple times those were!

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3lectr1cPPC

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I honestly wish I was around back then, lots of fun stuff I missed out on. Like the cheap macs! Anyways.

I just got in a big parts lot of Latitude CPi stuff that I found cheap on Mercari. After shipping, just $70 for…
- Complete and working CPi A366XT. Hinges cracking but otherwise great.
- Parts unit (CPi D series of some sort). Cracked screen and does not power on. Hinges are really bad on this one too
- At least 3 Ethernet PCMCIA cards WITH THE DONGLES
- 1 modem card, missing the dongle
- Some sort of WiFi CardBus card.
- Parallel to Dell Modular Bay cable
- 2 chargers
- Original documentation
- nice dell bag
- Extra battery (works!)
- Extra floppy drive module (beat up and as of yet untested)
And what was inside both the completed laptops:
- 2 batteries
- 1 as of yet untested CD drive
- 1 working floppy drive module (sweet! Didn’t have one of those)
- Upgraded 30 and 40GB hard drives respectively
- 256MB RAM on the A366XT
- 2 unlabeled modules on the D series CPi
- Both also originated from china and have Chinese keyboards! Pretty neat.

Will post some photos of it all later. Pretty sweet I’d say.
 

3lectr1cPPC

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Alright! I’ve gotten work done on them:

- removed CMOS batteries from both. Both had begun to leak out the wires (check your old laptops, all from the time used these!)
- installed Windows 2000 on the A366XT
- swapped speakers from the dead D300XT into the working D300XT

Going well so far. A366XT’s left hinge had enough and completed snapped its plastic though. Will load it up with epoxy and hope it holds.
 

3lectr1cPPC

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Well this is officially the find of the year so far.

240MHz PowerBook 3400c, for FREE!!!

It was a bit beat up, bad keyboard, wonky hinges, missing a drive module and the HDD Cable (and HDD) but shockingly the PRAM battery hadn’t wrecked the logic board and it works!

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Battery was leaking down the cables but not onto the board yet
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Very dusty!


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But it works!
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I swapped the 240MHz logic board into my 200MHz unit and it’s working great with the upgrade. Sweet! Oh, and the battery it came with also holds a charge, meaning I’ve now somehow got 5 working ones now…

How did I get my hands on a 3400c for free? Let alone a 240MHz one? Well, it came from a recycler. There may be more to come from that place eventually, we’ll see.
 

3lectr1cPPC

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Yes, yes, yes. When I’ve got the money saved I will for sure. And I did see the link you sent me, not sure I’d want to risk it on a dead one, even if it’s probably the PRAM battery… maybe the recycler will get one at some point :)
 

3lectr1cPPC

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No way, how did you figure it out :eek:
All jokes aside, yeah, it’s pretty yellowed. I’d be curious about replacing the CCFL tube in the future. I could totally build two nice 3400s from these parts. Well, and a new keyboard and HDD cable.
 

CC_333

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No way, how did you figure it out :eek:
Haha :D

It's pretty obvious... ;)

I’d be curious about replacing the CCFL tube in the future. I could totally build two nice 3400s from these parts. Well, and a new keyboard and HDD cable.
Yeah, that should be doable. Of course, I don't know for certain, but I'd imagine there does exist the possibility that either of the polarizers or their adhesive could be contributing to the yellowness.

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joshc

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Pismos rarely die - I bought an untested one and it was just the PRAM battery that needed removing. Not saying that's always the case, but they are a pretty safe bet.
 

3lectr1cPPC

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Yeah I could probably get that Pizzzmo going again but it was also pretty scuffed up, and shipping on it was crazy! Someday but not that one. Would be nice to have a 500MHz one as well… they’re nice systems for sure. No SCSI though. Pretty easy to G4 swap one if you have BGA skills from what I hear as well. I don’t have them yet but I want to learn sometime.
I don’t think @AndyO has one yet, you could go bug him about it ;)
 
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