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Latest haul

Applemeister

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Last Sunday, I came back with a monster haul. I've split the list up into sections, to make it easier to navigate ;)

Hardware

• Macintosh IIsi

• Macintosh Color Display

• 2x MASS SyQuest drives (one apparently doesn't work)

• AppleCD 300

• ADB Keyboard (the original one, plus cable)

• ADB I Mouse

• ADB II Mouse (this one must be first-gen, as it has a black tracking ball inside and doesn't have "Apple Desktop Bus Mouse II" etched into the case)

• Apple PlainTalk microphone (the IIsi has the little bracket for storing this attached to the side of its case)

• Global Village modem (no model, and no speed printed)

• 2x HDDs – one made by Apple, the other by some other company

• 2 or 3 memory modules (two of them are 32 MB Kingston and are still in their original boxes)

Software

• HyperCard 1.2.2 (British)

• HyperCard 2.1 (British) – only the Program disk, though, and it's paritally corrupt :(

• HyperCard 1.1 (Z2)

• LetraStudio 2.0

• Macintosh PowerBook Disk Tools

Literature

• HyperCard User's Guide

• Addendum to Getting Started With HyperCard and Version 1.2 Update

• 2x DataPak Removable Cartridge Drives manuals

• AppleCD 300 User's Guide

• Qisk SCSI storage units for Macintosh manual

Misc.

• An absolute truckload of SCSI cables (some still unopened in their plastic bags)

• 2x SCSI terminators

• Macintosh SE carry bag (this was holding the keyboard, mice, literature, software, and all the cables)

• Several power cables, including a very unusual one that has a label with the 1977-1983 Apple logo printed on it in red

• A really strange set of synthetic covers in a cream/brown colour, one of which has "Macintosh Plus" printed on it.

• Macintosh VGA monitor cable

• LaserWriter cable

• Farallon telephone extension leads with hubs

• Floppy disk archival unit (has 6 drawers)

Now for a few details regarding this part of the haul.

I haven't yet booted the IIsi, so I'm not too sure of specs. When advertised on Freecycle, the e-mail stated that it was running System 7.5.

Unfortunately, most of the HyperCard disks are corrupt.For example, I could only make disk images for disk 2 & 3 of HyperCard Z1-1.2.2. I copied virtually everything from disk 1 (only 2 or 3 stacks couldn't be transferred, due to a disk error).

From HyperCard B1-2.1, all I could salvage from the disk were two stacks. And from HyperCard Z2-1.1, I managed to make images of all the disks bar the first one. I could only get a handful of stacks from the first disk, and the LaserWriter Chooser extension. Fortunately, the HyperCard application itself, was also on the last disk (not sure why, but it saved me in this case ;) ).

I have the original wallet which Z1-1.2.2 came in and another one that has been completely unopened and is still shrinkwrapped. I'm not sure of the version for the shrinkwrapped copy, but the wallet differs slightly in that it has "HyperCard™ Basica" printed on the front, and has an unusual address at the back: "Apple Computer, Inc. 2025 Mariani Avenue, Cupertino, California."

The SyQuest drives and the AppleCD 300 are unusual in that they've been placed inside an outer casing, labelled d2. I was always under the impression that d2 only made software and not cases for external SCSI devices...

One of the main advantages I see to this is that it's protected the units inside from yellowing ;) Unfortunately, I can't dismantle them to reveal the original unit inside, as they've been assembled using some strange star-shaped screws which I'm figuring can only be removed with a Torx-7 screwdriver...

Right....now comes Part II lol!

I brought back a IIci and another UMAX Apus 2000 from uni yesterday. I've booted up the former, and it looks like it's an ex-Students' Union machine, judging by some of the content that was left on the hard disk and a small sticker on the underside with the letters "SU". It would also explain why there is, what appears to be, a cigarette burn on the casing. It's not in the best condition, with a few marks here and a few scratches there, but you have to look really closely to see them.

Unfortunately, someone pinched the NuBus Ethernet card from it, and there's a gaping hole in the slot where that once lived :(

It's running System 7.1 and has 4 MB RAM, plus an 80 MB hard disk. For some reason, someone set the resolution to black & white, despite the IIci having a graphics card that supports colour. I don't recall seeing any Macintosh Monochrome Displays lying about – unless they all got chucked years ago lol! – so I'm not too sure why someone would've set the resolution to B&W.

The monitor I was using to test the IIci with was the Macintosh Color Display I got with the IIci. Unfortunately, the screen is really pink/magenta. Is this something that can be easily repaired, or is the CRT permanently damaged?

I took the UMAX for the simple reason that I really messed mine up internally when I was attempting to re-assemble it after having replaced the PRAM battery. Now that I have an identical model with all the bits in the right place, I can open it up and see what goes where.

Its case is in really poor condition with some serious scratch marks, but I think I'll keep it anyway. A UMAX is a UMAX ;)

I've got some screenshots of the IIci, so I'll make those available at some stage.

Whew! That was a long post!

 

The Macster

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Woah, how did you manage to get so much stuff? All in one go or several different places? And where are you going to keep it all?!

The IIci probably has a dead battery, which would explain the B&W resolution - you say it's running OS 7.1. OS 7.5+ seem to remember the resolution/colour depth even if the battery is dead, whereas the older versions revert to B&W. Or it could be that it was connected to a monitor that does a higher resolution than the 640x480 of the Colour Display, and when you connect it to one that can't do that resolution it resets to the lowest default of 640x480 B&W maybe? (I'm only guessing there)

As for the HyperCard discs, hopefully you can find some copies online or someone that can upload them - if you reimage the discs then they will hopefully be as good as new. I also have a set of four HyperCard floppies that I was given ages ago with my Plus - can't remember what version they are though, or even if they work. "Basica" sounds like it could be a different language version? As for the address, that's probably just their old address before they set up at Infinite Loop.

I don't think the AppleCD would have yellowed anyway - I have a 300 and the casing is mostly metal - only the bit right at the front is plastic, though even that doesn't seem to have yellowed.

What type of memory are the two Kingston 32MB modules?

 

wally

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It took about four days of 8 hour a day power up conditioning time for my freecycled Apple Multiple Scan 17 Display to recover to an acceptable color balance, and there were some mechanical intermittents along the way. There were some plugged connections deep inside that I reseated, and in addition some input blocking aluminum electrolytic capacitors to the video amp inputs appear to have gradually reformed their oxide. Obnoxious when I first got it, but performs solidly now! If you can, leave it on running for a while with any sleep mode disabled.

 

Applemeister

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Woah, how did you manage to get so much stuff? All in one go or several different places? And where are you going to keep it all?!
The IIsi and all the documentation, peripherals, &c. came from Freecycle, and all of it from one person!!

As for the IIci and the UMAX, I brought both of those back from uni, but without the luxury of a car, so I had to lug 15kg of hardware to the train station and then start the uphill trek home lol!

The IIci probably has a dead battery, which would explain the B&W resolution - you say it's running OS 7.1. OS 7.5+ seem to remember the resolution/colour depth even if the battery is dead, whereas the older versions revert to B&W.
Yeah, I think the PRAM battery's died. I seem to recall that the date reverted to 01/01/1904 and the thing was running rather slowly. Fortunately, the battery is not soldered in the IIci, and I have a spare working one in the other Performa 475 I have, so I'll transfer it to the IIci at some stage.

As for the HyperCard discs, hopefully you can find some copies online or someone that can upload them - if you reimage the discs then they will hopefully be as good as new. I also have a set of four HyperCard floppies that I was given ages ago with my Plus - can't remember what version they are though, or even if they work. "Basica" sounds like it could be a different language version?
Yeah, I have several copies of HyperCard I downloaded from various places, but in order to re-image my copies, I need the correct versions. It'll be rather daft to have 3 diskettes containing the material for the British version of HyperCard, only to have the U.S. version of the application on the program diskette ;)

Perhaps you could check which version you have on the disks that came with your Plus at some stage?

As for "Basica", that was a typo. It has "HyperCard Basics" printed lol!

I don't think the AppleCD would have yellowed anyway - I have a 300 and the casing is mostly metal - only the bit right at the front is plastic, though even that doesn't seem to have yellowed.
You probably have the internal version of the 300, which is called the AppleCD 300 Plus. That one is completely encased in metal, with only the facia being plastic. The 300 I have is external and has an Apple logo on the left (obscured because of the case its been put inside) as well as a power switch and two audio jacks on the back.

Unfortunately, I can't remove the d2 case as it's been screwed in place using strange screws that look like something only a Torx-7 screwdriver could take out.

That reminds me, I forgot to mention that I also have two sets of complete documentation about the d2 drive encasings in plastic pouches plus a floppy disk containing some d2 drivers.

What type of memory are the two Kingston 32MB modules?
I'll have to dig them out from the bag, as I can't remember. They look identical to what I have in my Performa 475, but that's not much help seeing you don't have a Performa lol!

I'll have a look at them later today and let you know.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: Latest haul

It took about four days of 8 hour a day power up conditioning time for my freecycled Apple Multiple Scan 17 Display to recover to an acceptable color balance, and there were some mechanical intermittents along the way. There were some plugged connections deep inside that I reseated, and in addition some input blocking aluminum electrolytic capacitors to the video amp inputs appear to have gradually reformed their oxide. Obnoxious when I first got it, but performs solidly now! If you can, leave it on running for a while with any sleep mode disabled.
Wouldn't that cause the CRT to burn? Then again, if it would mean getting the colour back to normal, then I guess that's a small price to pay.

 

The Macster

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I don't think the AppleCD would have yellowed anyway - I have a 300 and the casing is mostly metal - only the bit right at the front is plastic, though even that doesn't seem to have yellowed.
You probably have the internal version of the 300, which is called the AppleCD 300 Plus. That one is completely encased in metal, with only the facia being plastic. The 300 I have is external and has an Apple logo on the left (obscured because of the case its been put inside) as well as a power switch and two audio jacks on the back.
No, it is the external one - you can see it here (to the right of the LC II) - the top and sides are all metal painted white I think.

 

wally

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...Wouldn't that cause the CRT to burn? Then again, if it would mean getting the colour back to normal, then I guess that's a small price to pay.
The brightness can be turned way down, the main purpose of leaving the computer and monitor on is to apply normal working voltages to the electrolytic capacitors in the video amplifier sections and in the power supply. But leave the contrast control at a normal setting. Using a screen saver that moves images around continuously is another option as long as the saver does not sleep the monitor power mode after a timer expires.

 

Applemeister

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I've had the monitor running for the past 30 mins or so. Unfortunately, the brightness cannot be turned right down so that the screen is black. That can only be done if I turn the contrast way down.

Any ideas?

 

Applemeister

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OK, sorted it out. I hooked the monitor up to the IIsi, and it's running with a screensaver.

I originally had it plugged into the 475-for-spares. However, that's got something of an identity crisis going on. I put on the cover I kept back from the LC I had to throw out a while back, but the anti-static cover from the 475 is designed to have that trademark Apple SuperDrive disk doo. That means I can't stick floppies inside it, because they end up hitting the metal!!

 
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