Kendall's Collection and Finds!

[CC_333]

Maybe it's not supported, but you should still be able to run it. You just won't get some of the extra bells and whistles (such as Apple's nice boot picker or read-only HFS support) that Apple has in their Boot Camp installer for supported machines.

c

 

[Hotdog Zanzibar]

Yeah "not supported" is kind of meaningless these days... heck, "not compatible" doesn't even mean what it used to, either. My daily driver is a 2006 Mac Pro running Mavericks, when it's only supposed to run Lion. It's had the CPUs upgraded, 16gb RAM, and a GeForce 750 1.25gb video card. Until about a year ago, it was also a Windows gaming machine. 

 

[khannonnd]

Can anyone help me find a good set of instructions for getting Windows 10 on an unsupported Mac?  The only ones I have found require you to have access to another Windows machine which I don't have.  I want to try 10 out on my Mac Pro that Apple has decided should not be supported by Boot Camp.

 

[olePigeon]

As far as I know, you just install it.  After it's installed, you may need a second computer to download the drivers (as Windows 10 may not have the drivers for the ethernet or wireless.)  You'll lose out on some of the features from Boot Camp, but they're not game changers, in my opinion.  For example, you won't be able to browse your Mac's HFS partitions while in Windows, but there's 3rd party software they can do that (and write to it.)

 

[Hotdog Zanzibar]

Apple Discussions has a number of threads on installing Win10 with Boot Camp dealing with driver incompatibilities, many of which detail fixes. 

 

[khannonnd]

Well, I purchased and downloaded a Windows 10 64 bit ISO, followed instructions I found on multiple sites to burn it onto a USB drive, but for the life of me boot camp will not recognize it as a Windows install drive.  This is, I believe, the "unsupported" problem since my 2009 Mac Pro is so "old."  

No idea how I am going to get Windows 10 onto this computer as the instructions I have found on line do not seem to work :-/

 

[khannonnd]

Never mind, I am an idiot.  I spent hours trying to figure out why the bootable USB drive wasn't working.  Then I realized -- My MacPro has a superdrive.  I have never used it and it has been so long since I have used an optical drive, I just forgot it was there.

So I burned the ISO to a DVD and now its working.

 

[khannonnd]

Picked up today an:

(1) Apple III

(2) Monitor III

(3) Profile Hard drive

(4) Silentype Printer 

(5) Apple IIe enhancement kit (in box)

(6) Apple II Super Serial Card (in box)

(7) shrink wrapped Disk ][

Total cost: $180 which sounded fair to me (not knowing at all how much any of this stuff goes for on its own).

The Apple III and Monitor appear to work as far as I can tell (meaning they both turn on and the monitor displays a "Retry" prompt.  I have no Apple III disks to test it on!  Can I put an Apple II disk in this thing?

The hard drive turns on and spins up, but I don't have the right cord to hook it to anything.  And I don't know how to get the Apple III to print to the Silentype printer to test it!

 

[khannonnd]

Also, something was rattling around in the front of the Profile HD, so I opened it up and this piece of grating came out.  Hopefully its not super important to the HDs operation?

 

[Macdrone]

apple II disk will not run with out the apple II emulator disk as the III does not support the II as it sits.

 

[khannonnd]

Also, apparently the Profile requires a special card in the Apple III to work (that this one does not appear to have.  I'll have to pick one up eventually so I can see if this HD actually works!

 

[khannonnd]

This III also has an odd smell coming out of the power supply area when it is running.  Its not noticeable unless your face is near the back while its running, but its definitely there.  It *smells* slightly like burning electronics but very subtle -- when I opened everything up I saw nothing unusual (and definitely no signs of burning or smokes)

Is that unusual? haha

 

[Carboy7]

One question:

Can you open the PS? The caps may be failing.

 

[khannonnd]

Yup, I did and I think I found the problem.

One picture is of the entire PS.

Towards the "front" of the PS (closest to the outlet), there is something (a cap?) that appears to have blown its yellow cover.  Both it, and the little pink circular thing next to it appear slightly singed/burnt (see pictures).  Needless to say, I won't turn the machine on anymore until this is fixed.

Can these things be recapped?  Is the thing that seems to have been singed even a cap?  I am technically illiterate so I have no idea what I am looking at in there!

 

[ScutBoy]

That's a very common failure for the Apple /// power supplies. I don't have the part number reference handy, but their cheap, easy to find, and not too hard to replace.

 

[khannonnd]

Went back to the place i got the Apple III set up to buy more stuff.  I got:

(1) Another rainbow ribbon-Disk II

(2) An Apple IIe numeric keypad thing

(3) A Disk III

(4) A rather odd card I had never seen by "Titan" -- It is actually two cards connected together.  One reads "III plus II" the other reads "III plus IIe."  I will have to research these cards, but I am assuming they put an Apple II and IIe into the III so you can use compatible software without resorting to emulation?  Anyone have any ideas?

Total cost for the lot: $40

 

[ScutBoy]

You are basically correct on the Titan cards. I don't know if they require specific software, but think they do.

Very nice pickup. If you want to sell them, let me know :-0

 

[khannonnd]

You are basically correct on the Titan cards. I don't know if they require specific software, but think they do.

Very nice pickup. If you want to sell them, let me know :-0

Yeah, it seems they do, but luckily I found a place that has the manuals and .dsk images loaded: http://mirrors.apple2.org.za/Apple%20II%20Documentation%20Project/Interface%20Cards/Apple%20III/Titan%20III%20Plus%20IIe/

I have sent off my Apple III Power Supply to Uni to be re-capped.  Once I get it backed I will plug everything in and see what this Apple III is all about!

 

[khannonnd]

Looking at the first image of the Titan card, I just realized that there appears to be a chip missing on the "III plus II" card -- third row from the right, second row down.  Looking at pictures of other comparable Titan cards, the missing chip appears to be a "74LS161ANA" chip (whatever that means).  What is weird is this card was pulled directly from another Apple III.  Idont know why someone would have put it in their machine missing a chip?

 

[khannonnd]

This one on eBay seems to have the same chip missing as nine:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Apple-III-Titan-III-to-IIe-Board-Set-see-pics-/152295987768?hash=item23758c5a38:gusAAOSw44BYEhhh