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Installed A/UX 3.0.1 on my Q700

pee-air

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Installed A/UX 3.0.1 on my Quadra 700 today. Everything went pretty smoothly once I got my Q700 ready for the install. I used a hard drive that I pulled from an old SGI box, so I had to fiddle with some jumpers. I also had to pull my Rasterops Paintboard Prism GT card out.

I had a couple of problems initially. Once I burned the iso to a CD-R and wrote the boot image to a flopy disk, I encountered an odd problem. The floppy disk booted fine and located the CDROM drive. It began loading from the CD-R no problem. But it gave me a strange message in the upper left hand corner of the screen: Panic: no root file system. I couldn't figure out what the problem was, but after a half dozen reboots it just worked.

I was worried that my Pioneer 12x CDROM drive would not work, as it will not work with Mac OS without installing some proprietary drivers. But I guess that doesn't really matter with A/UX because it bypasses the Macintosh Toolbox and works directly with the drive. Anyway, the CDROM drive just worked.

I was also worried that the CD-R that I burned the iso to might cause some problems. I read several posts that said that the iso should be burned at the slowest speed possible. I burned my iso at 40x. I didn't have any problems with the CD-R that I burned. It worked flawlessly.

Now that I have A/UX installed, I don't quite know what to do with it. I've been spending the last few hours trying to install stuff on it. So far I've managed to install VIM, wget, and gzip. Installing software in A/UX is not as simple and straightforward as it is in Linux or NetBSD. It requires a fair bit of tinkering. And the directories are something that I'm not at all used to -- I'm not used to /users versus /home, among other things.

Other than that, the X11 environment in A/UX is surprisingly quick on a 25MHz Quadra 700. It feels much more responsive than the X11 environment in Linux or NetBSD on a 68K machine. MacX is dog slow though. But I don't care, as I don't plan on running Mac OS aplications on this machine anyway. So I'll just stick with X11 or the basic console.

Overall, I'm quite impressed with this old operating system from Apple. Don't know what I'm going to do with it yet, but it should be interesting to play with. I'll see what happens...

p.s. Has anyone had any luck getting top to work in A/UX 3.0.1?

 

ChristTrekker

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The "no root fs" error sounds familiar. Check the FAQ.

There are a couple of us die-hards that have websites for A/UX. Not sure what practical things you are going to do with A/UX these days, but like you said, it is fun to tinker. As soon as I get my box back online, I want to try to get gcc 2.95 or 3.0 to build, and then see if I can hack pkgsrc for it. That would be a sweeeeet project.

 

pee-air

Well-known member
General A/UX

I think A/UX is going to become my summer obsession. I really like it. It's UNIX, which I like. It runs on my old Quadra 700, which was lying dormant. And it's bizarre and different enough to challenge.

No root filesystem

I did read the FAQ. (Great job, by the way.) It says to try a slower CDROM drive. But I didn't have a slower CDROM drive to try. I actually kind of lucked out. I read a lot of posts by peole all over the Internet who said that you had to find just the right combination of stuff in order to get A/UX installed. I was able to get it installed on my first attempt using only the very limited selection of stuff that I had laying around. So I'm pleased with my A/UX experience so far.

Seeing hardware

How do you see what hardware is attached to your A/UX box? I'm trying to get the model number of my CDROM drive, but I can't see how to get that information in A/UX.

 

ChristTrekker

Well-known member
I did read the FAQ. (Great job, by the way.) It says to try a slower CDROM drive. But I didn't have a slower CDROM drive to try. I actually kind of lucked out. I read a lot of posts by peole all over the Internet who said that you had to find just the right combination of stuff in order to get A/UX installed. I was able to get it installed on my first attempt using only the very limited selection of stuff that I had laying around. So I'm pleased with my A/UX experience so far.
I can't claim credit for much of it. It was mostly written before my time; I just marked up the text. The new additions are fairly modest, as there isn't much development on A/UX these days.

If you had luck with a different CD-ROM, please let me know so it can be added.

How do you see what hardware is attached to your A/UX box? I'm trying to get the model number of my CDROM drive, but I can't see how to get that information in A/UX.
I wish I could speak to that, but as my own box isn't working right now, I can't check.

 

pee-air

Well-known member
Different CDROM

I will let you know which CDROM drive I'm using as soon as I figure out how to get the model name from within A/UX. I'm not particularly motivated enough to open the case and read the label on the drive mechanism. So I'll probably just end up plugging the drive into my G3 and using Apple System Profile to get the model number.

I really wish there was a way to get the model number from within A/UX. I can tell you that it is a Pioneer mechanism though. I can also tell you that it is a 12 times drive and that it works for A/UX installation and after installation from within A/UX and System 7.0.1 running on A/UX. I'll get the model number to you either tonight or tomorrow.

Fresh Install A/UX 3.0.1

I changed a bunch of things that I probably shouldn't have in my initial install of A/UX 3.0.1, so I decided to do a fresh install before I started applying the ugrades. The fresh install of A/UX 3.0.1 went smooth. There were absolutely no problems whatsoever. Not even the Panic: No root filesystem errors that I experienced the first time I installed A/Ux.

Upgrade to A/UX 3.0.2

I downloaded the two AWS Tuneup #1 floppy images from http://www.aux-penelope.com'>http://www.aux-penelope.com'>http://www.aux-penelope.com and upgraded my A/UX install from 3.0.1 to 3.0.2. The upgrade went smooth as silk. There were absolutely no problems whatsoever.

Being a Linux user made these upgrades really easy. I downloaded the images in Firefox (Iceweasel, for you Debian users), saved them to my Appletalk server, and used the incredibly quick dd utility to write the Mac floppies right from my Linux server. It just doesn't get any easier.

Upgrade to A/UX 3.1

I downloaded the AWS 3.1 Upgrade ISO from http://www.aux-penelope.com and upgraded my A/UX install from 3.0.2 to 3.1. The upgrade went as expected: problem-free.

Again, I downloaded the ISO in Firefox and burned the image from my Linux workstation using Brasero -- which is about the best graphical CD/DVD mastering application I've found for Linux.

Upgrade to A/UX 3.1.1

I downloaded the AWS Tuneup #2 floppy image from http://www.aux-penelope.com and upgraded my AU/X install from 3.1 to 3.1.1. I am now running the very last version of A/UX ever released by Apple. I'm liking A/UX more and more everytime I use it.

Summary

I can't believe people actually have trouble installing this operating system. Aside from the reboot overkill of having to restart the Macintosh everytime the kernel gets reconfigured or a new upgrade is installed, A/UX is one of the easiest operating systems around to install. Now, if only installing UNIX software in A/UX were as simple and straightforward.

And that brings me to my question...

Commercial Software for A/UX

Did Apple or anyone else release commercial software specifically for use in A/UX's UNIX environment? I'm wondering what software people used in A/UX back in the day. I couldn't see anyone installing A/UX just to run primarily Macintosh applications. What would be the point? What UNIX software did people run under A/UX?

 

ChristTrekker

Well-known member
Well, you can get a lot of insights by reading the comp.unix.aux archives on Google. I know a MUD I once coded on was hosted on A/UX at one point (though I didn't know it at the time).

 
Different CDROM
And that brings me to my question...

Commercial Software for A/UX

Did Apple or anyone else release commercial software specifically for use in A/UX's UNIX environment? I'm wondering what software people used in A/UX back in the day. I couldn't see anyone installing A/UX just to run primarily Macintosh applications. What would be the point? What UNIX software did people run under A/UX?
I know there was a version of Oracle for AUX. If you have access to Metalink and do a Macintosh search, several support items pop up.

- Derrik

 
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