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How to Transfer Data From 2.5" SCSI Drives Without a PowerBook

Concorde1993

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I have two working 2.5" SCSI drives from my 160 and Duo 230. The objective is to transfer whatever content is on these drives to my IIfx. The 160 was sold sometime ago (screen was shot and so were the plastics) and my Duo 230 is in pieces.

I've seen some homebrew SCSI 2.5" to 3.5" adapters online. Not sure how good they are and I'm not really in the mood for experimentation (and I have no intentions of buying another PowerBook - I'm done with Apple laptops).

For those who have 2.5" SCSI drives lying around and no dependable PowerBook, what have you done to revive these drives and transfer their data to another Mac?
 

beachycove

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Working 2.5” SCSI drives are rare enough for you to be able to trade one to another member in need of one, in return for getting the extracted data back.
 

mikes-macs

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You answered your own question but blatantly stated you refuse to do it.

“and I have no intentions of buying another PowerBook - I'm done with Apple laptops)”

There really aren’t that many options because adapters are hard to find. I have a PB 520c but I don’t want to open it. Too brittle.
 

jeremywork

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If you have enough of a PowerBook carcass and the requisite SCSI cable it can be done by booting the PowerBook and then hitting non-masked interrupt after the drive powers on. If you can plug the HD into the powerbook logic board and either press the programmer’s switch or connect an ADB keyboard to press CMD-PWR (500 series etc), then start a second Mac connected to the SCSI cable the drive should be accessible.

It’s simplest if the working Mac uses a second SCSI bus or IDE for its boot drive so the SCSI ID isn’t a concern.
 

Concorde1993

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If you have enough of a PowerBook carcass
I still have all the parts for my Duo 230 - it's just that the plastics for the screen (along with the screen itself) are FUBAR.
And the requisite SCSI cable it
Yes, I have a couple of the HDI-to-SCSI adapters for the PB series.
It’s simplest if the working Mac uses a second SCSI bus or IDE for its boot drive so the SCSI ID isn’t a concern.
I can change the internal SCSI HD's ID in my IIfx with Silverlining 5.7 or I can connect the Duo 230 to my Adaptec 2906 SCSI card and use my B&W G3 as the transfer computer.
Working 2.5” SCSI drives are rare enough for you to be able to trade one to another member in need of one, in return for getting the extracted data back.
Do you need a pair? Doubt they'll survive the trip to Newfoundland though (and shipping will likely be killer from Ontario).
I was looking at that one. I would need some sort of splitter cable for the 3.5" drive to feed power from the motherboard to the adapter.
You answered your own question but blatantly stated you refuse to do it.
And that's because the plastics on PBs are total shite - even the "newer" G3s. My mint condition Kanga that I've owned for years needs work (death chimes on startup) and believe me I've thought long and hard whether its worth destroying the plastics trying to resurrect it.

And don't get me started on the iBook G4s. My parents bought me one brand new in '04 - plastics on the top cover started disintegrating after three years of regular use. Logic board died shortly afterwards.

If you want longevity in a laptop, you can't beat a ThinkPad 600E. Only thing that goes wrong with those are the stupid rubber covers for the ports.
 

3lectr1cPPC

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And that's because the plastics on PBs are total shite - even the "newer" G3s. My mint condition Kanga that I've owned for years needs work (death chimes on startup) and believe me I've thought long and hard whether its worth destroying the plastics trying to resurrect it.

And don't get me started on the iBook G4s. My parents bought me one brand new in '04 - plastics on the top cover started disintegrating after three years of regular use. Logic board died shortly afterwards.

If you want longevity in a laptop, you can't beat a ThinkPad 600E. Only thing that goes wrong with those are the stupid rubber covers for the ports.
As the resident PowerBook guy here, I have a few thoughts on this perspective.

Out of all of my PowerBooks, I've had exactly three units that have completely intact hinge plastics (besides the newer G3s and G4s): My 100, 180c, and my 240MHz 3400c.
The rest have all cracked in some way. However, what I can say is that there are always ways of fixing it. The 100 series and 500 series PowerBooks have 3D print templates that you can print, install, and fix the hinges that way. I've installed them in my 145 and my 170 and they're both doing great now. My 150, not so much, but it's an especially bad case.
The original PowerBook 100 doesn't have hinge issues usually.
Colin from This Does Not Compute designed a standoff replacement for the color Duos, that could easily be modified to fit the Grayscale models too. He hasn't shared the STL files I think, but I'll bet he'd send them if you sent a PM on TinkerDifferent. I could do that if you aren't a member there, but if your screen is junk too then there's no point.
The 5300 series can be epoxied, as can the 3400, 2400, Kanga, etc. The 1400 is a special case because of the way it breaks, but epoxy will fix it (but will be ugly). Point is that there are ways to work around it, but I'd understand someone not wanting to deal with that sort of thing.

As for being worried about taking machines apart because of plastics - I've found that simply isn't much of an issue, if you're careful. For your Kanga, it's more than likely that the system has fallen victim to a leaking PRAM battery, so it's unfortunately probably toast, but it's still worth checking. I made a quick video tutorial on how to get it out here:

When taking apart the couple dozen vintage laptops I have, I'll lose a clip or a standoff here and there, but that can usually be mended with some epoxy or plastic weld. Again though, this sort of thing definitely isn't for everyone. I'd understand wanting to avoid the vintage laptops because of all this.
 
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