down load speeds on a B&W G3 (165KB/sec)

[mraroid]

Hello...

I am running a Blue & White G3 @ 400Mhz.  I have 1 GB of RAM.  The OS is 8.6.  I am using the 5 GB mechanical hard drive that came with this computer.

I just got the B&W on line a few minutes ago.  It is plugged into my ethernet network. I have about 150Mbps down load speed from my cable provider.

I went here:

http://obsolete.macfixer.com/vintage-software/

And I am down loading a file.  My down load speed is between 160 and 164 KB/sec.

Is this about right for my processor?  I am using the IE that came with 8.6 which is version 4.5

I will be moving to a solid state hard drive and 9.22 soon.  Will this change my down load speeds very much?

thanks

mraroid

 

[Unknown_K]

I think you will find networking on Classic Mac OS is much slower then using OSX or a Windows machine. I grabbed a file using my main PC and was getting 2MB/sec+, on OSX Dual G5 tower a little slower. Don't have a 8.6 OS machine handy to test at the moment,.

 

[Cory5412]

Netscape will be slightly faster, so I recommend using that. System7Today.com has Netscape 4.8 available. I can't vouch for Classilla, but it will likely have around the same speedup from IE that Netscape does.

This kind of thing, by the way, is why I have been saying over and over and over and over again that, largely, the speed of your bridge machine doesn't really matter.

Another thing to note is that we don't know what hardware, software, and network the host is on. I have 40/20 at home and am downloading Mac OS 9 at around 3MB/sec (it has been steadily increasing,  as I type this it's about up to 3.8) which is a little over half what my connection can do.

It's possible that the host's throttled the connection or that their machine, software, or line are unable to provide any more than around 3.8 megabytes per second. (it slowed down to around 3.6 for the last couple megs, on my line.)

 

[mraroid]

I think you will find networking on Classic Mac OS is much slower then using OSX or a Windows machine. I grabbed a file using my main PC and was getting 2MB/sec+, on OSX Dual G5 tower a little slower. Don't have a 8.6 OS machine handy to test at the moment,.

OK  Thanks...




I upgraded the G3 B&W to 9.2.2. After that, my down load speeds went up to between 295 to about 300KB/sec.
I am not unhappy with this.  I am just looking for typical speeds that folks with this era hardware might see.

Maybe my speeds may improve when I move to a solid state drive? 

I have completely failed in setting up a shared folder between the Mystic running 8.1 and the G3 B&W running 9.2.2

Can someone point me to a web page where I can read up on this?  This seems to be a great way to down load files on the B&W,

put them in a shared folder, and then find them on my Mystic.

Thanks!

 

[mraroid]

This kind of thing, by the way, is why I have been saying over and over and over and over again that, largely, the speed of your bridge machine doesn't really matter.

I am unsure what you mean when you say bridge machine.  If I down load files on my G3 machine for the G3 machine, are you calling this my bridge machine?  If I down load files on the Mystic for the Mystic, is the Mystic then called the bridge machine?

Another thing to note is that we don't know what hardware, software, and network the host is on. I have 40/20 at home and am downloading Mac OS 9 at around 3MB/sec (it has been steadily increasing,  as I type this it's about up to 3.8) which is a little over half what my connection can do.

By host, you are referring to the server that the web page I am down loading from lives on? 

It's possible that the host's throttled the connection or that their machine, software, or line are unable to provide any more than around 3.8 megabytes per second. (it slowed down to around 3.6 for the last couple megs, on my line.)

Learning's new terminology for this stuff.  Trying to get it down.  Hope I am getting close!

Do you know of a web page that I can go to to learn how to build shared folders on the Mystic and the G3 machines?

Thanks again for your help.

mraroid

 

[Cory5412]

I am unsure what you mean when you say bridge machine. 

By this, I mean your Blue & White power Mac, which you'd been talking about using to download files.

Maybe my speeds may improve when I move to a solid state drive? 

Almost certainly not. The drive you have is already capable of much much faster. 

By host, you are referring to the server that the web page I am down loading from lives on? 

Sorry -- yes. Basically, in any given situation, the server you're downloading from might or might not have the ability to saturate your Internet connection. This almost always is related to their internet connection. If the macfixer web site is hosted out of the owner's home, for example, it probably doesn't have a very high upload speed. (For example: vtools.stenoweb.net is hosted at my house and I have around 20 megabits of upload speed.)

Do you know of a web page that I can go to to learn how to build shared folders on the Mystic and the G3 machines?

I saw that question in the relevant thread and I'll try to see if I can find anything and put a response there.

I'm writing a guide on how to set up ASIP6, but that's a little bit of a different scope.

 

[Cory5412]

Wanted to reiterate my most immediate advice from above: Give Netscape a try, in my experience it transfers files much faster than IE.

 

[mraroid]

I saw that question in the relevant thread and I'll try to see if I can find anything and put a response there.

I'm writing a guide on how to set up ASIP6, but that's a little bit of a different scope.

Thanks so much!

mraroid

 

[mraroid]

Wanted to reiterate my most immediate advice from above: Give Netscape a try, in my experience it transfers files much faster than IE.

After my upgrade to 9.2.2, I found Netscape 7.0 in my OS and tried that last night.  I had about the same speed which was about 290 to 300 KB/sec.  I did no thave time to go to other sites and test down load speeds.  I hope to try Macintosh Garden today.

 

[Cory5412]

I have gigabit to my desk at work, and I'm using QEMU on a machine with a very fast disk.

I'm still using Netscape 4.7, I"ll see about using Netscape 6 or 7.

Under these circumstances, I can only barely get this site to break 1000K/sec. *(it took about 3 minutes to get to 1020K/sec)

This is probably about as good as you'll get out of this kind of scenario.

Just for fun, what if you try to get something from http://personal.stenoweb.net/oldmac/ - that's from the same Internet connection as vtools, but it's on my modern server. (When I do this, I get to around 1070KB/sec immediately, but not more, even though I know a newer client could do better.)

Just thinking about this, back when the last of the Mac OS 9 machines were modern, state of the art in home internet was basically ADSL at up to around 384 kilobits per second. It's not super surprising that this kind of thing was never fixed.