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Color Plus?

Danamania

Official 68k Muse
The screen looks blue?
The screens (when shown in photos) vary widely in colour, depending on the light the photo is taken in - white balance makes a HUGE difference. My SE for one, looks to have a grey screen in photos where the room is lit by sunlight, and a very definite blue when the photo is lit by a single incandescent bulb.

Dana

 

Danamania

Official 68k Muse
http://www.danamania.com/temp/9600_colour.jpg is another example - my 9600, with colour monitor and default colour balance taken only by a low power desk lamp - that's a normal working colour screen displaying a grey classic OS gui.

The opposite is when the colour balance is set for the screen - the incandescent-lit room can show up very yellow, even red! http://www.danamania.com/temp/pb100-2.jpg (on a pb100)

Running multiple machines next to each other does show some colour differences across the whole of the greyscale screens. some are a touch more bluish, and powerbooks typically a bit greenish.

Dana

 

MacMan

Well-known member
This is quite a common misconception with photos of compacts. The phosphor coating on the screens of the 128K, 512K and Plus all gave a slightly blue tinge which is often exaggerated by digital cameras. I don't think I've seen this with SEs and Classics though.

 

Applemeister

Well-known member
This is quite a common misconception with photos of compacts. The phosphor coating on the screens of the 128K, 512K and Plus all gave a slightly blue tinge which is often exaggerated by digital cameras. I don't think I've seen this with SEs and Classics though.
Yeah, SEs don't produce colour screens when photographed. I have some photos taken of my SE in poor lighting with my camera 'phone and the screen is decidedly monochrome

 

Scott Baret

Well-known member
There were two vendors of CRT for compacts. Most Macs used ones made by Clinton, but a few (especially SEs) had Samsung tubes. The Samsungs seem, at least to my eye when next to a Clinton at the same brightness level, a bit bluer.

There also seem to be a few variations of the Clinton. Early Macs (until about 1986) seemed to use a different design of actual display unit and they seem to be prone to focus problems. SEs and some Classics (with Revision A analogs) use the newer design. These are modified in terms of connectors for Classics with Revision B boards (most of them from Spring 1991 on have Revision B) . Most newer Classic IIs (1992-1993) have redder rings around where the anode cap fits and they seem to be the crispest of all. Samsungs are also usually very crisp and seem to have better focus than any Clinton.

Has anyone seen a Samsung on a Mac other than an SE or SE/30?

 

Charlieman

Well-known member
Has anyone seen a Samsung on a Mac other than an SE or SE/30?
I've opened dozens of 128/512k/Plus/SE Macs in the UK and I have only seen Clinton crts.

Ditto three Lisas.

 

Scott Baret

Well-known member
I'm not sure what the distribution of CRT type was, but the Samsung is definitely rarer. I also failed to note that they have darker anode cap areas as well, similar to the late-model Clintons. (I have one Samsung I'm not using if anyone's interested)

Patrick--never heard of a yellow looking CRT before, but it begs the question--what kind of camera are you using and are you using any special settings/flashes?

 

~tl

68kMLA Admin Emeritus
My old SE's screen photographed yellow...I don't know why...
At a guess, I'd say it's a white balance setting on the camera which is causing it to look yellow...

 

iMac600

Well-known member
Has anyone seen a Samsung on a Mac other than an SE or SE/30?
Yes, in a Macintosh Classic.

Although the machine is long dead, I still have the CRT and PSU on a shelf, for reference.

 

MacMan

Well-known member
It would be fun to actually put a color screen in one though, (just to scare your friends!) ;)
Quite a few folk have out colour LCD's in compact cases along with newer hardward that is capable of producing colour (eg. Mac mini or Cube motherboard). I haven't seen one that has had a colour CRT put in though, and 9" colour CRTs were once available for checkout computers and the like.

 

tachyon

Member
It would be fun to actually put a color screen in one though, (just to scare your friends!) ;)
Quite a few folk have out colour LCD's in compact cases along with newer hardward that is capable of producing colour (eg. Mac mini or Cube motherboard). I haven't seen one that has had a colour CRT put in though, and 9" colour CRTs were once available for checkout computers and the like.
You can see a hokey color Mac 128/512 in the first act of the film Short Circuit. Steve Gutenberg's robotics-expert character has an original Mac that seems to have a color display. He can also be seen with the original 128K box in a scene a little later.[/u]

 

Scott Baret

Well-known member
iMac600--I saw one in a Classic II not long ago as well. Very uncommon in the Classics for what I know, and it seems like they don't exist in Europe (if any Europeans know otherwise let me know).

 
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