Beige G3 DT with 9.2.2 slow after sleep

[petteri]

It seems display sleep or some other energy saver causes this machine to became really slow on screen redraws, for example while typing or just refreshing windows. After restart everything back to normal. I have scanned the HD with Disinfectant 3.7.1. 

The computer has ATI Rage Pro with 6MB VRAM and it is running 9.2.2 and the latest ATI drivers. Any ideas?

 

[just.in.time]

Have you tried restarting with extensions disabled (hold shift key at boot until is ays Extensions Disabled... or Extensions Off, something like that). If that fixes it, probably an extensions conflict/issue.

With extensions disabled, you might have to manually put the computer to Sleep from the Special menu. Not sure if it will automatically do display sleep or regular sleep with extensions disabled.

 

[Dimitris1980]

I had the same issue with my Power Macintosh G3 Minitower (300 mhz, 768mb ram, Ati Radeon 7000 Mac edition 32mb vram). I disabled the sleep choice and now i am ok.

 

[Byrd]

Try just the Apple provided ATI drivers with OS 9, the retail ATI drivers aren’t needed for onboard ATI GPUs.

 

[Cory5412]

What installation path did you go down to get 9.2.2?

I've had good luck with the eMac'02 9.2.2 CD and have recommended it a couple times, but we've also seen reports in the MLA IRC that it's problematic on some machines. This will apply double to things like the MacOS9Lives images, because they weren't in any sense professionally tested against, for the eMac CD, any machine except the eMac, and for the OS9Lives CDs, any machines at all.

If you did anything other than using a retail 9.2.1 CD to do an install and then Apple's 9.2.2 updater, give that a go.

Otherwise, you can avoid the problem by not using sleep. To be honest, I disable/don't-enable sleep on basically any Macs I run.

I've been collecting some notes on my personal here: https://doku.stenoweb.net/doku.php?id=macdex:os9-cds if anyone has anything to add. Beige G3 with add-in cards is already on the list as having potential trouble.

 

[beachycove]

Wasn’t 9.2.2 mainly intended to support Classic?

I personally ran 9.1 on a G3MT (no OSX — lots of other options for that!) and found it absolutely happy waking from sleep, so maybe do a downgrade and see what happens? You could always then upgrade to 9.2.1 and if happy, leave it that-a-way.

 

[Cory5412]

9.2.2 itself had a handful of improvements over 9.1/9.2.1 - some of them were in Classic Mode, I think there was something for iPod support, and then there was stability/performance improvements for, perhaps somewhat ironically, a few late-stage applications that, themselves ran much better under OS X anyway. (Final Cut and DVD Studio Pro in particular.) I believe AppleShare IP had a few improvements as well, both in general and if you also installed the newest AppleShare IP 6.3.3 update.

Back in the early 2000s there were a couple people extremely enthusiastic about running 9.2.0/1/2 on pre-G3 machines, both with and without G3 upgrades, mostly for that software. It "makes sense" for the time even though 9.2.2 doesn't really have any security content over previous versions of 9, but if you were, say, buying a new iPod but didn't want to replace an S900 you'd bought new-old-stock back in 2001, I can see why updating to 9.2.2 would've been compelling.

So, today the main reasons to run 9.2.2 is if you have one of those applications/peripherals and want to use OS 9 instead of OS X for whatever reason, if using Classic Mode is important to your workflows and/or you want to run Classic software on newer machines.

For my part, the easy access to the eMac'03 CD, completionism tendencies, and having a few machines that require 9.2.2 (TiBook/1000 and QS'02 in particular) are most of why I have it/bother with it, and the eMac CD's willingness to work on any other G3+ is why it ended up installed on basically everything I run.


For this use case, yeah, I'd say pop a retail 9.0.x/9.1/9.2.1 CD in and see if that makes things any better.