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Apollo RAM - maybe a treasure?

Dennis Nedry

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Along with a 1500MHz PC motherboard (which now works and I am using it to burn Mac IIci ROMs), I received a "4 / 8 MB MEM" Apollo computer RAM module. They were in the same bag for $5. It is 010683 REV 00. I found a couple of places that were selling it for $300+ but I'm wondering if it's really even very valuable. That could be a bloated price like we're used to seeing. If anyone has any clue on the rarity and/or usefulness, please comment. It is dated copyright 1986. Pictures to come.

 

Anonymous Freak

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Massively bloated price. Probably for an Apollo (or later HP Apollo) workstation.

I suppose I need to see how much RAM is in my Apollo workstation, and maybe make an offer on that from you. :-D

 

Gorgonops

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The $300+ price tags you've found for that thing are typical for surplus resellers who specialize in "rare and exotic" computer parts. Name a given obsolete machine and there's *probably* someone out there who's still using one in some mission-critical application with custom vertical-market software. (Processing data from an obsolete card reader, running an assembly line robot, driving an ancient blueprint plotter, that sort of thing.) Since it does cost money to warehouse electronic junk these sellers depend on panic ensuing when one of those remaining mission-critical machines goes belly-up so they can be there to cater the desperate owners' willingness to spend an arm and half a leg for some otherwise basically worthless hunk of junk in order to get back to work.

(I'm not really criticizing their business model, mind you. The same model applies to auto parts, for instance. If you need a taillight lens for the 1967 Obscuremobile you're restoring you'll pay many times what the item would be fairly "worth" in a purely rational universe to the one guy that has it.)

So really, I wouldn't call the thing a "treasure". If you put it on eBay open for bids you'll probably get practically nothing for it, while if you list it for $300 "buy it now" it's *possible* someone might hit you up for it sometime in the next decade. It's how the market works.

(A DN 5500, which is what it appears the board is for, is a *really* obscure piece of kit. It'd sort of surprise me if there are any still doing productive work, but I've seen stranger I guess. There seems to be *very* little collector's interest in that line of hardware.)

 

Bunsen

Admin-Witchfinder-General
Considering a downed assembly line robot could easily cost them ten times that price per day, that seems less like an arm and half a leg, and more like a sensible business decision.

 

Gorgonops

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No argument, mind you. If you *need* something you'll pay to get it if there's enough at stake.

I really do have to wonder if anyone's actually *sold* an Apollo DN xxxx memory card for *any* price in the last... few years? Seriously, they seem to be a machine that *nobody* loves anymore. (The last non-spam posts in the comp.sys.apollo newsgroup were in 2008, and there were all of three of them.)

 

techfury90

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Gorgonops:

I was working on a DN3500 emulator a few months ago. I should probably work on it again. It did get as far as the IRQ controller test in the boot PROM (I had not implemented IRQs)...

Edit: I also have dumps of the Domain/OS SR10.4 install tapes, and the SR10.4.1 upgrade.

 

trag

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I really do have to wonder if anyone's actually *sold* an Apollo DN xxxx memory card for *any* price in the last... few years? Seriously, they seem to be a machine that *nobody* loves anymore. (The last non-spam posts in the comp.sys.apollo newsgroup were in 2008, and there were all of three of them.)
You could always ask over on the Classic Computers email list. See if anyone there has any DN xxxx machines in their collection and what the memory market looks like. If any group has an obscure Apollo collector in it, it's probably that email list.

I bet I could prototype one of those memory cards for less than $300, depending on how hard it is to find that connector.

Actually, I bet one could be built for under $100, again, depending on the connector.

From the photo it looks like it is just eight sets of nine 1M X 1 memory chips and a very few other chips for control, as one would expect in a composite memory module. Might even be able to build one with 8M X 1 chips and dispense with the extra logic.

 
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