Best bridge machine?

rollmastr · Nov 6, 2022

I just recently stumbled over FuseHFS for MacFUSE. Runs great in Mac OS Ventura.

fuseHFS 0.1.5

Update of FuseHFS to run on macOS 12 Monterey with macFUSE

thejoelpatrol.github.io

Hopfenholz · Nov 6, 2022

The other thing I do is run Basilisk on my modern iMac and use my Floppy Emu to go straight from modern mac to classic 68k mac. Works well

Cory5412 · Nov 6, 2022

All very fun.

Most of my vintage Macs are '030s and newer on 7.6.1 or better so I put ethernet in everything and run an AppleShare IP server.

I'm using ASIP6.2.2 on 9.2.2 on a QS'02 right now but my eventual plan is to move to a Mac mini G4 running 10.4 server - that QS'02 will likely become an OS 9 desktop and donate some of its RAM to the duallie so *that* can be an OS X machine.

Linux with netatalk would be objectively better in many, many, many, many ways (and also still support appleshare-over-appletalk), but for me, the server itself is a fun vintage mac experience.

Modern macOS up through big sur (at least) can all connect to 10.4's AFP server, and I can move stuff to/from it from Windows and my iPhone using SSH clients.

Byte Knight · Nov 7, 2022

jdlanza said:
Curious to hear the community's thoughts/recommendations. I would like to build an environment that has, at one end, a machine capable of operating on the modern Internet for downloading apps, etc. from, e.g., Macintosh Garden. The other end would be any number of vintage Macs on which the downloaded apps, etc. would get installed.

In between, I would like to put a machine that speaks Ethernet to the modern machines and LocalTalk to the vintage machines. Suggestions?

Quite honestly, a Raspberry Pi is probably your best bridge machine. As others have mentioned, running a netatalk server via A2SERVER or a RaSCSI will let you share files easily between modern and vintage Macs. I even send files to my Apple IIgs with Uthernet II card that way! If you go with the RaSCSI, you'll also have the advantage of being able to print to modern printers on your network via CUPS.

LaPorta · Nov 7, 2022

The only issue I had with A2SERVER was that I was never able to get it to access my RAID drive with all the classic software I have on it.

Skate323k137 · Nov 7, 2022

Byte Knight said:
If you go with the RaSCSI, you'll also have the advantage of being able to print to modern printers on your network via CUPS.

Ok I have got to try this.

Byte Knight · Nov 8, 2022

Skate323k137 said:
Ok I have got to try this.

Yeah, you should! It was pretty slick when my modern Cannon MG6200 inkjet printer showed up in Chooser under the Laserwriter driver and then proceeded to print in color.

Nixontheknight · Nov 9, 2022

Byte Knight said:
Yeah, you should! It was pretty slick when my modern Cannon MG6200 inkjet printer showed up in Chooser under the Laserwriter driver and then proceeded to print in color.

would it work with an HP ENVY 7800 printer??

Hopfenholz · Nov 9, 2022

Can you link to a tutorial for this? Would a modern Brother laser printer show up using the Raspi method?

Byte Knight · Nov 10, 2022

Nixontheknight said:
would it work with an HP ENVY 7800 printer??

It must be CUPS (Apple AirPrint) compatible to work.

Byte Knight · Nov 10, 2022

Hopfenholz said:
Can you link to a tutorial for this? Would a modern Brother laser printer show up using the Raspi method?

I use Brother DCP-L2550DW laser printer and it works great. The old method to install it is here, but I believe it's an Easy Install option now with the latest version of RaSCSI. Another option is to print via LPD (TCP/IP) which is described here.

Unknown_K · Nov 10, 2022

I used to just set up a Windows 2000 server with Apple network support and everything 68K/PPC was good to go. Make sure you use NTFS or you lose file forks.

Hopfenholz · Nov 10, 2022

Byte Knight said:
I use Brother DCP-L2550DW laser printer and it works great. The old method to install it is here, but I believe it's an Easy Install option now with the latest version of RaSCSI. Another option is to print via LPD (TCP/IP) which is described here.

Thank you so much

joshc · Nov 10, 2022

I like to keep things as simple as possible, and have found that a Raspberry Pi loaded with MacIPRpi does the trick for most things, as long as the old Macs are networked. This means I can transfer stuff from an M1 Mac to all my 68k machines without a bridge machine.

rollmastr · Nov 10, 2022

Hopfenholz said:
Can you link to a tutorial for this? Would a modern Brother laser printer show up using the Raspi method?

Works with my Brother MFC-L2730DW and the LaserWriter driver.

MrFahrenheit · Nov 11, 2022

Unknown_K said:
I used to just set up a Windows 2000 server with Apple network support and everything 68K/PPC was good to go. Make sure you use NTFS or you lose file forks.

I wasn't aware that Windows 2000 Server supported Mac/Appletalk file shares. I learn something new all the time! Thanks!!

Nixontheknight · Nov 11, 2022

Byte Knight said:
I use Brother DCP-L2550DW laser printer and it works great. The old method to install it is here, but I believe it's an Easy Install option now with the latest version of RaSCSI. Another option is to print via LPD (TCP/IP) which is described here.

I'm on board with the first few steps, but I cannot figure out the queue name for my HP printer

CC_333 · Nov 11, 2022

MrFahrenheit said:
I wasn't aware that Windows 2000 Server supported Mac/Appletalk file shares. I learn something new all the time! Thanks!!

I think Windows 2003 Server (a bit newer) supports it as well ("Services for Macintosh"), but I'm not sure.

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Corgi · Nov 11, 2022

CC_333 said:
I think Windows 2003 Server (a bit newer) supports it as well ("Services for Macintosh"), but I'm not sure.

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Windows Server 2003 supports Services for Macintosh, yes. I used it contemporaneously, but the clients were virtual Macs (Basilisk II) running 7.5.5. Not sure on other supported client SSW versions.

tecneeq · Nov 11, 2022

I would vote for a Raspberry Pi as well.

I'm thinking about buying a USB to serial adapter for 3€ and quickly hook up macs using that. I have a unused RPi0 that could do the job.
Not sure how, but I'm sure there is a howto somewhere.

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