will this sata card be botable in a rev2 G3? BW

Ncc74656 · Apr 24, 2022

i found a sonet card but its 390.00 for the mac version on a referb site. more than im willing to pay.
this card here claims its bootable, anyone tested this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/254669346388?hash=item3b4b79d654:g:7csAAOSwgYpdMbyJ

for a 3rd option - which pc cards can i swap the rom chip on and flash over to mac?

thanks

robin-fo · Apr 24, 2022

I‘m using exactly the same successfully in my WGS 8550. It is very fast and doesn‘t need any drivers. And yes, it‘s bootable!

Ncc74656 · Apr 24, 2022

on what OS's? so it would work on 8.6 as well you think?

MrFahrenheit · Apr 24, 2022

Ncc74656 said:
on what OS's? so it would work on 8.6 as well you think?

I have the same card from the same seller.

I can’t say about pre-G3 Macs because I haven’t tested them but theoretically it should work all the way back to a 7200.

I have booted a beige G3 with an SSD running Mac OS 8.1 on one. Nothing required just the card, a SATA cable, and a disk, formatted properly.

Ncc74656 · Apr 24, 2022

excellent, thanks! this retro sleeper build is going to be expensive - its nice to get an idea of what works before i buy all the parts

robin-fo · Apr 24, 2022

I can confirm it works down to System 7.5.2

Ncc74656 · Apr 24, 2022

sweet. im considering changing my build plan - maybe -
i was thinking of a zif socket G3 and upgrade but now im considering an MDD or quick silver and mod that to fit into a small forum factor case.

Mac-Man · Jul 6, 2022

Ncc74656 said:
i found a sonet card but its 390.00 for the mac version on a referb site. more than im willing to pay.
this card here claims its bootable, anyone tested this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/254669346388?hash=item3b4b79d654:g:7csAAOSwgYpdMbyJ

for a 3rd option - which pc cards can i swap the rom chip on and flash over to mac?

thanks

I just wanted to say thank you! I had difficulties finding a bootable SATA card for my PowerMac G4, but because of your message I was able to buy the last one of these SATA cards!

EtherRad · Jul 27, 2022

Same guy sells them slightly cheaper here when bought direct on his website:

2 Port SATA PCI Controller Adapter Card (Support OS 9)

For Apple PowerMac G3 / G4 / G5

www.local338shop.com

Phipli · Jul 27, 2022

There are different firmware versions, the ones I've seen I think, either boot Classic Mac OS and early OS X, or like, 10.3 and 10.4... not both older and newer.

I'd need to double check the exact behaviour - I'm not much of an OS X user so just use the older firmware. I have similar cards in everything from an 8200 to a beige G3

Good news is if you get an OS 9 one you can usually upgrade it to the firmware that boots OS X using a Mac Application, but I don't think you can go back, without a bit more hackery!

Daniël · Jul 27, 2022

Phipli said:
Good news is if you get an OS 9 one you can usually upgrade it to the firmware that boots OS X using a Mac Application, but I don't think you can go back, without a bit more hackery!

You should be able to "downgrade" again. The problem with the Classic Mac OS/System Software compatible firmware is that it requires a larger EEPROM than the OSX only Wiebetech firmware. That, and it has checks to allow only certain makes and models of EEPROM, which the Wiebetech firmware does not.

As long as you have a supported EEPROM, you can flash it to the "Classic" firmware and have it work.

Phipli · Jul 27, 2022

Daniël said:
You should be able to "downgrade" again. The problem with the Classic Mac OS/System Software compatible firmware is that it requires a larger EEPROM than the OSX only Wiebetech firmware. That, and it has checks to allow only certain makes and models of EEPROM, which the Wiebetech firmware does not.

As long as you have a supported EEPROM, you can flash it to the "Classic" firmware and have it work.

I don't remember seeing that option in the commercial software, although I wasn't really looking hard and it was a couple of years ago. I was flashing boards either in a freedos PC or in an stand alone EEPROM writer - because like you mention, I was soldering in bigger EEPROMs anyhow.

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