Ethertalk on Apple II?

[gavo]

I can probably guess the answer to this, but.... did/do any of ethernet cards that were released for the Apple II series support Ethertalk (i.e. Appletalk over ethernet)?

Cheers,

[luddite]

No, I'm afraid there's no such thing... If you're looking to transfer files ADT Pro works with the Uther card. Another option is to run a web server and use Contiki to grab files.

[Aoresteen]

You can get the AIIe network card that uses Local Talk connectors and share ProDos files to an AppleShare 2.0.1 server. Works well.
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It one reason I run AppleShare 2.0.1 on an SE/30.

[II2II]

Yes, you do have ethertalk for an Apple IIgs.

Grab a LocalTalk to EtherTalk adapter. Plug it into the printer port of your IIgs. I'm not sure that it will work with the latest version of Mac OS X, but I have definitely used it to connect to iMacs (ethernet only) and Linux (appletalk will not go over a rs-232 port, at least for macs).

Yes, I know this is cheating because you won't get ethernet speeds. But at least you can interface an Apple IIgs to newer hardware or non-Apple hardware.

[gavo]

Yes, you do have ethertalk for an Apple IIgs.

Grab a LocalTalk to EtherTalk adapter. Plug it into the printer port of your IIgs. I'm not sure that it will work with the latest version of Mac OS X, but I have definitely used it to connect to iMacs (ethernet only) and Linux (appletalk will not go over a rs-232 port, at least for macs).

Interesting. The whole netatalk (on linux) thing is what got me thinking about this. I dont suppose you tried booting your IIgs from the Linux box with your ethertalk/localtalk adaptor did you? I notice that netatalk seems to support apple II boot.

I suppose this approach (the adaptor) would work with an Apple II series workstation card as well? I think I'll go google localtalk to ethertalk adaptors

Cheers,

[macdownunder]

Interesting. The whole netatalk (on linux) thing is what got me thinking about this. I dont suppose you tried booting your IIgs from the Linux box with your ethertalk/localtalk adaptor did you? I notice that netatalk seems to support apple II boot.

I did try a couple of years ago and couldn't get anything on the Apple ][ to work when connected to an Apple Network Server running Yellowdog Linux 2.1 and Netatalk (the Mac side all worked as expected).

I suspect that we're limited to Appleshare 3.x for booting an Apple ][ over the network.

Regards,

Macdownunder

[II2II]

I never tried booting the Apple IIgs from netatalk (think I tried AppleShare server 2.x at one point though). If you have trouble with the 2.x series of netatalk, then try 1.6 since that is what I was using at the time. While I think they retained Apple II compatability in the 2.x series, it may take some tweaking.

[luddite]

Booting GS/OS over Localtalk is highly overrated... it's hideously slow. I never really understood the point of network booting a IIe.

[II2II]

Netbooting GS/OS allows you to load more functionality without an expensive hard drive controller. Since I've heard that the speed is comparable to a floppy diskette, you also remove the need to juggle floppies.

I'm not sure how netbooting would even work on a IIe, but I could imagine it being useful in schools. I remember the process of signing out a folder with the floppies while doing stuff in a Jr. High computer course. In retrospect, that was probably done to avoid having stuff walk off. (Even if there is no ill intent, teens forget.)

[gavo]

Stop by and visit my Apple Collection:
http://macdownunder.no-ip.info/

Dude, I just checked out your collection and nearly fell off my seat!!j

Niccccce!

[gavo]

Booting GS/OS over Localtalk is highly overrated... it's hideously slow. I never really understood the point of network booting a IIe.

Yes, well, actually, now that I think about it - I'd say it would be way down on my options list for practical use in 2008 - I think a CFFA card or something would be much more useful - but for something to do on a rainy day, could be a laugh to play with this stuff

I personally never saw it used in production.

Cheers,