1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby Temetka » 24 Mar 2008, 04:21

coius wrote:uh... could you guys make up your mind? I can't keep doing this. Pick a format and stick with it.

What would cause a .sea format to not work if copied from a non-os 9 machine. If you guys have OS X, it should be fine.


I have to agree with you. I don't understand why all these people with all these computers are having such a huge issue with 2 files.
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby Quadraman » 24 Mar 2008, 04:26

I only recommended using .sea because I thought it would be easier for everyone to have the decompressor built into the file even though it does make the file slightly bigger because the file can be used by anyone even if they don't have the tool that was used to compress the file. I wasn't aware there were compatibility issues with .sea.
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby coius » 24 Mar 2008, 06:36

does it extract at all?? If it doesn't, i will have to do it again, but if I have to go to another format like .sit, i will stick with it. Beggers can't be choosers ;) I am not going to put every file format :P
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby returningmacuser » 24 Mar 2008, 11:16

coius wrote:does it extract at all?? If it doesn't, i will have to do it again, but if I have to go to another format like .sit, i will stick with it. Beggers can't be choosers ;) I am not going to put every file format :P
It actually DOES extract! I changed the filetype and creator to Sit and it works perfectly.
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby returningmacuser » 24 Mar 2008, 11:24

coius wrote:uh... could you guys make up your mind? I can't keep doing this. Pick a format and stick with it.

What would cause a .sea format to not work if copied from a non-os 9 machine. If you guys have OS X, it should be fine.
iCab downloaded it as a text file. Anyway, like I said, I got it to work when I changed the format to .sit
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby coius » 24 Mar 2008, 13:58

Ok, i pre-changed the file extension to ".sit" It should work now :-)
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby gavo » 14 May 2008, 08:39

Hi Guys,

I downloaded these at the time, but have only just started to try and play with them. Anyone got any advice on how to get into the .sit archives for someone who only has an XP PC and an LC475?

I've tried stuffit expander on the PC which failed, and stuffit expander 4.0.2 on my 475 (the latest I have) - neither like the archives.

Then I found a friend with a modern Mac who was able to extract the files from the .sits and put them back into .zip, but on windows WinZIP doesnt like the archives cause its full of characters that are illegal for windows. On my 475 I've tried MacZip and Unzip, but both puke on the files (may be because they are so large).

I'm guessing my best bet is the friend with the modern mac, but does anyone know of a way to restuff these things on a modern mac in a format that my old stuffit on the 475 will like?

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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby returningmacuser » 14 May 2008, 15:16

gavo wrote:Hi Guys,

I downloaded these at the time, but have only just started to try and play with them. Anyone got any advice on how to get into the .sit archives for someone who only has an XP PC and an LC475?

I've tried stuffit expander on the PC which failed, and stuffit expander 4.0.2 on my 475 (the latest I have) - neither like the archives.

Then I found a friend with a modern Mac who was able to extract the files from the .sits and put them back into .zip, but on windows WinZIP doesnt like the archives cause its full of characters that are illegal for windows. On my 475 I've tried MacZip and Unzip, but both puke on the files (may be because they are so large).

I'm guessing my best bet is the friend with the modern mac, but does anyone know of a way to restuff these things on a modern mac in a format that my old stuffit on the 475 will like?

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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby tomlee59 » 14 May 2008, 22:58

I recommend running some version of expander 5. It seems to unstuff many more of those older archives than does version 4.x. That's the very first thing I'd try. All those other options look harder.
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby Rockin' Kat » 15 May 2008, 00:58

Hey Coius.

Just saw this thread and tried to download those files today.... Did you take them down? Your links just go to some index page on your website.
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby FerazelX » 15 May 2008, 22:35

I get a message saying that they are being moved.
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby gavo » 17 May 2008, 02:43

Guys,

First, after a bit more hunting I was able to find Stuffit Expander 5.5 and that runs happily on my 475 and recognizes the SIT archives :) So now my 475 is busily unstuffing the first CD (looks like its going to take a while! Especially as I'm doing it across the LAN - lucky I have a linintosh server ;) ).

Second, I have created torrents of the two original SIT files for those of you that missed them the first time. I have limited upload bandwidth and am on a data cap, so would appreciate it if you could also seed these once you have them (depending on how many people there are that dont have them already I guess).

CD1 - http://www.mininova.org/tor/1415777
CD2 - http://www.mininova.org/tor/1415780

Torrents are good for this sort of stuff, and if we all keep seeding them as much as we are able, then if in the future someone comes across this thread and wants the software, it will be available (yay for the community).

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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby coius » 23 May 2008, 18:47

Hi guys. Sorry, I didn't realize they went down. I guess I had moved the files. These are the locations:

http://coius.info/educorp1.sit
http://coius.info/educorp2.sit

those are hosted on my sub-site of my http://www.troubleshootnow.com/ forum

Anyways, if it doesn't work, let me know. I should be leaving them there
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby Driverguru » 22 Jun 2008, 00:32

coius wrote:uh... could you guys make up your mind? I can't keep doing this. Pick a format and stick with it.

What would cause a .sea format to not work if copied from a non-os 9 machine. If you guys have OS X, it should be fine.

SEA (self extracting archives) , I am pretty sure, have two file forks and all non mac OSses destroy the shorter file fork. In your case the resource fork. This destroys password protected stuffit files also. Stuffit put the password in a second file (a resource fork file) that windows will strip off. Yes... stuffit was written by retarded people.

As for DMG on OS9, a R-W capable, non compressed, non-encrypted DMG not containing multiple partitions or any partition table info, containing a HFS volume or HFS+ volume, CAN be mounted in OS9 if the mounting tool skips the preamble section. I think this section ends on a 512 byte boundary to allow read-writes to be on proper 512 byte block boundaries.

No one outside Apple ever wrote a tool to do so, but I think someone might have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Disk_Image

Currently, the only way to open a DMG in Mac OS 9 is to use the developer version of Apple's Disk Copy (version 6.4), or a beta version of the unreleased 6.5 Apple's Disk Copy

If you cannot locate this, I can write you a tool. I have written private OS9 tools that mount a lot of different types of highly fragmented files. (Many mounting tools cannot mount files with more than 3 file fragment spans)
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby LCGuy » 23 Jun 2008, 06:31

Indeed they do - I've wrecked a few SEA files by transferring them to PCs at one stage or another - they're a full-fledged Mac "application", and have both a resource fork and data fork.
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby nlp » 23 Jun 2008, 23:13

just in case you don't know:

you can treat a .sea as a .sit (stuffit compressed file).

on pc, simply renaming it to .sit will help.
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby Mk.558 » 19 Jan 2012, 03:38

3.5 year bump FOR THE WIN!

I sent tachyon a PM about this upload material but he's never responded to it (shows May '11 his last visit) back in April of '11.

Anybody got this stuff? What's in it anyways? The early days were the different days.
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby techknight » 19 Jan 2012, 03:51

Well unfortunately, coius server is now on the malware blacklist so i cant get it from there. lol.
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby coius » 19 Jan 2012, 04:02

I lost the name after shutting down my forum and then someone did a take over of the URL. I was unable to get it back, but somehow a transfer of the URL was basically stolen from me and I didn't know it.

btw, there has been recent incidents where people from countries are initiating un-authorized take-overs of URLs and nothing can be done. Godaddy at the time told me that when it happened, they couldn't stop it. Within a week I lost it and contacted godaddy since they were still charging me for the domain name. I then called visa and reported that godaddy was illegally charging my credit card. Go daddy contacted me telling me they weren't happy how i Reported to visa and demanded I pay up for lost money.

I basically told godaddy to go to hell since they didn't stop the domain transfer. After that I gave up.

I no longer have those files as when the domain went down, my files were instantly deleted by godaddy.


Godaddy can roll in the grave for all I care. After all that, now they have been backing the SOPA/PIPA act and a lot of people left.

I also was having service outages. On top of that, I have been getting spam from someone registering another URL similar to mine and telling me if I wanted it, I would have to pay (I kid you not) $90,000

Google will not filter the spam no matter how many times I mark it in gmail. I can't keep the emails from people registering the name from coming to me wanting me to bid on it. Frankly, I don't care as I never registered it for a purpose. Too much $$/yr
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby Anonymous Freak » 19 Jan 2012, 05:44

My favorite is my personal domain. I originally registered it through the "Yahoo Personal Address" service, and the email was hosted through Yahoo. Later, they retired the "Personal Address" service, and changed to two separate services - one for businesses, one for personal use. My account got grandfathered in badly - I was apparently in neither the new small business nor the new personal service. I later attempted to change something about the domain registration (I wanted to host a website that wasn't on GeoCities,) and nobody could help me. The small business side theoretically would have allowed me to, but they swore I was a personal account. The personal account side said they had no record of me. After much back-and-forth, I registered a different domain, and figured I'd just transfer the Yahoo domain. Nope, couldn't transfer the Yahoo domain because I couldn't get the transfer key. I figured I'd wait for it to expire and snap it up.

Nope, a squatter got it before me.

The domain was my last name dot org. (The dot com was held by a distant cousin, who ironically later lost THAT to a squatter himself.) My last name is not common (in the entire world, there are maybe three-four dozen of us.) It is not famous. It is not "trendy" or "interesting" in any way. There is no comprehensible reason for a domain squatter to want it.

When I followed the "make an offer on this domain" nonsense, I was forced to enter a minimum offer of €200. Fine, whatever. I entered my €200 offer. It was rejected, with a counter-offer of €10,000 (obviously automated.) BS. The automated system wouldn't let me "counter-counter" offer for less than €1000. Not going to do that (they claim it would be a binding offer.) I have a recurring alarm set every year for its supposed expiration. They have never let go of it, for over 7 years now. Every year, I check to see if it's the same squatter. It still is. I've attempted to find a way to contact a live human at the squatter to let them know that they've wasted their domain registration money every year - and that I'd offer them double what they've spent on registering it every year - but I've never been able to find a way to contact a live human.

And, now that I've thought about it, I decided to check again (the expiration has always been June) and the dot com my distant cousin lost is still held by the squatter, but apparently that same cousin managed to get the dot org! (Hrm, did I forget to check last year? Now that I think about it, I may have...)
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby Mk.558 » 19 Jan 2012, 14:19

If coius has the files still, there's MegaUpload/RS/FS/etc servers that'll gladly host it...

I'm mainly curious what's in it -- the title says 1GB, so that must contain some good stuff. (And bad -- trojans + viruses roamed the Mac world back then)

I only have a 1.0Mbps connection here, so I thought I'd ask before I downloaded.
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby Dog Cow » 19 Jan 2012, 16:49

http://macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=13346
http://macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=13347

These have been at Mac GUI Vault since it opened on 09 09 09.
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby Mk.558 » 20 Jan 2012, 01:59

Those two files total roughly 300MB, the 1GB figure is uncompressed?

If so, that's quite tidy compression...
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Re: 1GB of shareware and public domain software from 1993

Postby Dog Cow » 20 Jan 2012, 19:51

I don't know. You'll have to download them and take a look.

I did so once, but it was over a year ago. I do recall that there was quite a lot of software and clip art.
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