GeForce4 MX 64MB AGP under 9.2.2 on QS'02 . . .

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

. . . or 9.0, 9.1, 9.2 or 9.2.2 on a 466 DA?

The last time I tried to buy a decent Dual Head VidCard, it didn't support OS9 AT ALL, so it was useless to me.
Does anybody have first hand, second hand, thir . . .
. . . whatever . . . will the freakin' thing run dual head under OS9.x and is it any freakin' good?
NuBus & PDS VidCards I can deal with, but these AGP things . . .

VidCards from the dawn of Usable Releases of OSX and the nadir/zenith of OS9 Development & Support puzzle me . . .

p.s. I'm mostly interested in 1080p, 720p and other Widescreen LCD Formats . . .
. . . along with my standard 1200 x 1600 20" LCD & 1600 x 1200 22" CRT.

[Byrd]

Hi Mr. Trash,

is that the official Apple GF4MX? Certainly the GF2MX cards are not dual head and will only mirror output, I suspect the GF4 might be the same, especially under OS 9 as the drivers weren't great for these cards. Same goes with wanting 1080p and 720 WS resolutions - you'd be pushing it.

You'd probably have better luck with a Radeon 7x00 or 8x00 card under OS X for dual display, partly because ATI actually gave a damn and their control panel/drivers are better, and more supported under OS 9.

JB

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

That's just "trash" or "jt" to you and the rest of the MLA!

Listing reads:

"APPLE POWER MAC G4 GeForce4 MX 64MB AGP VIDEO CARD"

Whatever the "f" that means!

I got burned badly already on an ATI card . . . couldn't get drivers from Apple OR ATI!

BTW: the much maligned 16MB ATI, Rage128Pro that shipped with my 466DA dishes up 1080p just fine!

I'd think a newer card with 64MB of VRAM ought to be able to do 1080p and another decent res at the same time!

[coius]

If you have a radeon, and do a fresh install of OS 9, they have the drivers built in. That includes all the way up to the 9xxx series. It's even built in for my MDD 1.25Ghz Dual. If you can, go grab one off of eBay. I think you could do a GeForce 6200 flashed on it. But you will have to do the mod. I doubt it would work on OS 9 though, but you would get nice OS X performance.


Yeah, I would suggest a Radeon over GeForce. more updated, faster and is supported better (if you need drivers, I can show you were to get the modern OS 9 drivers)

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

I'm ONLY interested in running OS9, the only time I run any version of X is on my 500 MHz Pismo. I've got the first X release installed on the 466DA, but I've rarely even played with it.

The Dual 1GHz QS'02 is straight up 9.2.2, with no cat$#!^ in sight!

After playing with the ubuntu NetBook remix, I'm sold (don't have a lot of $ yet anyway) on ubuntu for future HackQuisitions™, on Android for Pads (if ever) and my new phone is the Motorola Android2Global . . . it's QWERTY correct . . . like my ENV3 . . .
. . . but they neglected to put on the row of numeric keys!

[trag]

is that the official Apple GF4MX? Certainly the GF2MX cards are not dual head and will only mirror output, I suspect the GF4 might be the same, especially under OS 9 as the drivers weren't great for these cards. Same goes with wanting 1080p and 720 WS resolutions - you'd be pushing it.

Hmmmm. There is a utility out there written by a fellow in .de (Deutschland?) which enables display spanning on iBooks and iMacs and at least some of those iMacs have the GF4MX chip. So it is conceivable that said utility would enable spanning using the GF4MX AGP card.

I think I find the link, when I want it by going to the everymac.com listing for the 17" 800MHz G4 iMac (boots OS 9 version), scrolling down the the section on video, and there's a little note about mirroring only and a link to the utility for those who want to enable spanning.

Can't remember if the utility is OSX only or also has a version for 9.x.

[Bunsen]

I got burned badly already on an ATI card . . . couldn't get drivers from Apple OR ATI!

Try searching CNet Downloads. And it's possible your card needs a ROM update too.

[waynestewart]

I've used the Radeon 9000 pro for dual displays under both OS9. You can get two displays each running at up to 1920x1200. 1080P might take some patching though since it came out years after 9.2.2 did.

[BeniD82]

I currently use a Radeon 7500 in my souped-up G4 Cube which can display 1080p just fine under os 9 (9.2.2) and OS X. My screen is hooked up to the VGA port because I can't seem to get the digital signal to work properly with the ADC->DVI adapter (not sure if it's the adapter or my monitor). The original Rage Pro 128 which came with the Cube was also able to display 1080p albeit only on the VGA port (analogue) and somewhat "dark" color-wise (I suppose the resolution was pushing the hardware). The digital output on the Rage Pro 128 is limited and will only give you resolutions up to 1280x1024 or thereabout. The Radeon 7500 should technically allow you to output 1080p on ADC/DVI.

Trying to get a digital-only configuration working on my Cube so far has been an exercise in futility. If I hook up my screen to the Cube using the ADC->DVI I get no video output at all. If I connect two screens to the Radeon, I can't get a signal on the digital connection but the VGA port outputs as secondary screen, so I have no ability to actually control the system (all I get is a blue screen showing the desktop pattern). If I boot into OS X using this configuration, once the OS loads it will actually enable video mirroring which will allow me to modify the screen setup (once I do so it displays 1080p on digital just fine). Again, this only works with with OS X, can't seem to get it to work under OS 9 at all. So at this point I'm stuck with either an unusable dual screen setup or 1080p on analogue since digital won't play nice.

[olePigeon]

I have a QS running 9.2.1 with a 64MB GeForece 4MX. It runs fine. I don't know if you can do dual video on it, though, because I don't have an ADC display or an adapter to test it on.