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Mac Forth

Postby Mac128 » 06 Apr 2010, 15:21

Anybody ever use Mac Forth? This auction on eBay doesn't go into a lot of detail.
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Re: Mac Forth

Postby Anonymous Freak » 06 Apr 2010, 16:14

"this rare complete original 1984 MacFORTH Level 2 collector set!"???

collector set?!?

It's a freakin' box of software! Not a limited-edition collectible plate!

As for what it is. It's a programming language. I was happy to never have to learn FORTH. FORTRAN was bad enough. (Although from what I recall, FORTH is a fairly simple yet powerful language for mathematical use, just as FORTRAN is simple yet powerful for engineering use.)
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Re: Mac Forth

Postby Bunsen » 06 Apr 2010, 17:05

Forth is the language of the Open Firmware command shell
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Re: Mac Forth

Postby Unknown_K » 06 Apr 2010, 19:06

Looks cool, will keep my eyes open for a "much" cheaper one.
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Re: Mac Forth

Postby ClassicHasClass » 07 Apr 2010, 03:40

Get PocketForth. It's much better. And it's free.
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Re: Mac Forth

Postby Bunsen » 07 Apr 2010, 10:46

There should be *oodles* of free and open source Forth implementations out there, and free docs.
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Re: Mac Forth

Postby Unknown_K » 07 Apr 2010, 14:57

One of the cool things about collecting vintage software releases is the box and original manuals. Sure you might be able to find some later free release of Forth software and print out a "manual", but it is not the same thing to me.
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Re: Mac Forth

Postby Dog Cow » 07 Apr 2010, 19:03

danapplemacman routinely over-prices his "valuable wares."
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Re: Mac Forth

Postby msieweke » 10 Apr 2010, 03:33

Back in the dark ages (1984), there were precious few ways to write software for the Mac on the Mac. Apple wanted you to develop on a Lisa. Mac Pascal was an interpreter. Mac Basic was killed by Microsoft. I bought one of the few available options - MacForth. As I recall, it's a decent implementation with words defined for calls into the toolbox. It came in several versions with different costs. I think I paid $75 or $125. The professional version(s) were quite expensive. I think it was fairly popular because it was the first system that let you write stand-alone applications on the Mac. It even ran on a 128k.

IMO Forth is a quirky language, but highly interactive. This interactivity can make it very productive for developers. Forth is a stack-based postfix language. I tried, but I never learned to think in Forth. I did write a very simple terminal emulator, but I can't recall much else.

There are several free Forth systems for the Mac. Check out forth.org for more info, including tutorials, primers, and online books.
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Re: Mac Forth

Postby CJ_Miller » 24 Apr 2010, 05:09

Yikes! I am glad I didn't realize how "collectible" this was! I bought the same package around 2008 with two Forth books thrown in for less than $5.

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Re: Mac Forth

Postby JDW » 14 Jul 2010, 08:55

Dan has relisted it for $250. In the original listing Mac128 links to, the price was $400. If this continues, it might become attractively priced after 4 more relistings.
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Re: Mac Forth

Postby BarnacleGrim » 14 Jul 2010, 09:13

Hack Forth, using emacs on the key. Save in NVRAM if you please!
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