Mac SE/OSX Networking Question

[duanearnett]

I'm new to most of this and to this forum also, but is it possible to get BasiliskII to talk to a System 7.0 SE over ethernet?

[porter]

I'm new to most of this and to this forum also, but is it possible to get BasiliskII to talk to a System 7.0 SE over ethernet?

Does the SE have an ethernet port?

If not, do you have a localtalk to ethernet adapter?

If not consider using PPP and a serial link.

[duanearnett]

Yes the SE does have an Ethernet port.

[PowerPup]

You'll need to read the documentation that comes with Basilisk II, but yes it can work. Basically what you do is install a custom made protocol driver to you windows ethernet card. Then use Basilisk II's setup program to configure everything. (Documentation and drivers are in the Basilisk II's folder.)

I tried this feature out once. I used Mac OS 8 instead of Mac OS 7. (Plus I was using SheepShaver.) But it should work fine.

[porter]

Basically what you do is install a custom made protocol driver to you windows ethernet card.

I presumed he was running BasiliskII on the MacOSX box.

[PowerPup]

Basically what you do is install a custom made protocol driver to you windows ethernet card.

I presumed he was running BasiliskII on the MacOSX box.

..... Oh yeah! I forgot it was for mac too. Well, I'm sure there is a virtual driver or something for Mac OS X. Not sure, Have to check that one out myself too.

Edit: The site mentions it, "Fix SLiRP network emulation (workaround MacOS X bugs.)"

[Mac128]

but yes it can work.

Don't think so with OS X. The problem is that Basilisk II & SheepShaver only use the host OS X's AFP drivers. If OS X can't connect to the SE natively, then neither can Basilisk II or SheepShaver. OS X requires a minimum of System 8 for AppleShare and Snow Leopard requires OS X.

[porter]

The problem is that Basilisk II & SheepShaver only use the host OS X's AFP drivers.

I thought Basilisk-II did networking at the ethernet frame level, not using OS mapped drives.

[PowerPup]

Okay, after some research and testing. (I love doing this kind of stuff!) I found an article on how to setup Basilisk II and SheepShaver (Basilisk II's PPC twin,) for AppleTalk and TCP/IP on Mac OS X.

http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/appletalk_for_sheepshaver

I tried it out using Basilisk II running Mac OS 7.5.3, and successfully connected to my PowerBook G3 running Mac OS 9.2.2.

I even made a bash script to make some of the steps easier.

#/!bin/bash

sudo *Replace with location of Basilisk II folder*/BasiliskII.app/Contents/MacOS/BasiliskII & sleep 5
sudo ifconfig tap0 *Replace with an unused IP of your network* netmask 255.255.255.0
echo "Ifconfig Started!"

Them you open IPnetRouterX and save your configuration as described in the guide, so you end up with only two files to double click instead of all that typing each time you want to set it up.

Pretty cool to get Mac OS X to run Mac OS VII to network with Mac OS IX.

[Mac128]

I tried it out using Basilisk II running Mac OS 7.5.3, and successfully connected to my PowerBook G3 running Mac OS 9.2.2.

OK, but what version of OS X? 9.2.2 will easily connect with everything up to Leopard. Snow Leopard breaks it.

ALSO: Porter, I don't know that much about Basilisk II, it may well bypass the host OS. I have been trying to get Paul Pratt to do something like that on Mini vMac so that it would grab the serial port and actually push AppleTalk over a USB/Serial adapter just like a real 68K Mac. Of course if that were possible then one could also grab the Ethernet port. However, Paul seemed to think that was not very likely while OS X was actively accessing the hardware, which would require more complicated implementation, if it is even possible. However, I am pretty sure SheepShaver won't access the Ethernet framework, if only because I have not been able to do it. Perhaps with the correct low-level UNIX commands it might be possible.

[PowerPup]

I tried it out using Basilisk II running Mac OS 7.5.3, and successfully connected to my PowerBook G3 running Mac OS 9.2.2.

OK, but what version of OS X? 9.2.2 will easily connect with everything up to Leopard. Snow Leopard breaks it.

I'm using Mac OS X 10.4.11. But I know that the guide works, because when I'm in chooser without doing the steps, nothing is there, following the steps then makes my PowerBook G3 show up. (The guide mentions that AppleTalk won't work in Mac OS X while this configuration is running.)

The guide itself says "Appletalk for SheepShaver/Basilisk in Leopard or Snow Leopard (32-bit)." So I assume it works with Snow Leopard.