Icons for old machines in Specs pages

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Icons for old machines in Specs pages

Postby MidnightCommando » 05 Feb 2010, 14:38

I see that you have icons from IconFactory for many of the older machines - while this is nice and quaint, has anyone investigated the possibility of asking the widget:widget people if we could use their Magnum Opus icons on the 68kMLA wiki for hardware?

I had Magnum Opus on my mac os x box, long ago, and I can attest that the icons within are of the highest quality.

(Also, if it's not inappropriate I'd be willing to ask them myself.)
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Re: Icons for old machines in Specs pages

Postby ChristTrekker » 05 Feb 2010, 18:30

I asked permission for the IF icons. If the ones you mention would be better representations, then by all means, ask! The worst that can happen is they say "no".
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Re: Icons for old machines in Specs pages

Postby Anonymous Freak » 05 Feb 2010, 18:38

Where are these icons? I don't see any on any of the Wiki specs pages... Am I missing another specs page somewhere?
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Re: Icons for old machines in Specs pages

Postby Dog Cow » 05 Feb 2010, 18:39

Anonymous Freak wrote:Where are these icons? I don't see any on any of the Wiki specs pages..
Hence, this topic.
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Re: Icons for old machines in Specs pages

Postby ChristTrekker » 05 Feb 2010, 18:48

Anonymous Freak wrote:Where are these icons? I don't see any on any of the Wiki specs pages... Am I missing another specs page somewhere?


Macintosh Quadra 840AV is one, or see Category:Iconfactory copyrighted images.
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Re: Icons for old machines in Specs pages

Postby Anonymous Freak » 05 Feb 2010, 19:24

Thanks. Just turns out I hadn't gone to the right pages. :-P
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Re: Icons for old machines in Specs pages

Postby Anonymous Freak » 05 Feb 2010, 19:38

MidnightCommando wrote:I see that you have icons from IconFactory for many of the older machines - while this is nice and quaint, has anyone investigated the possibility of asking the widget:widget people if we could use their Magnum Opus icons on the 68kMLA wiki for hardware?

I had Magnum Opus on my mac os x box, long ago, and I can attest that the icons within are of the highest quality.

(Also, if it's not inappropriate I'd be willing to ask them myself.)


Well, according to widget : widget's Terms and Conditions page, their icons are all available under Creative Commons noncommercial and/or commercial licenses.

Icons with the noncommercial license are free for noncommercial use, including noncommercial websites. I believe this would qualify as a noncommercial website.

Icons for commercial use cost $9.99 a year for the license.

From their T&C page, it sounds like *ALL* of their icons are available for noncommercial use, with some also available for commercial use.

According to the badge on their icon archive page, but the Magnum Opus set is non-commercial-only. Which means we're free to use it on here, as long as we give them proper credit, aren't charging any money anywhere, and don't modify the icons.
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Re: Icons for old machines in Specs pages

Postby MidnightCommando » 07 Feb 2010, 07:56

Anonymous Freak wrote:Well, according to widget : widget's Terms and Conditions page, their icons are all available under Creative Commons noncommercial and/or commercial licenses.

Icons with the noncommercial license are free for noncommercial use, including noncommercial websites. I believe this would qualify as a noncommercial website.


No doubt about that.

Anonymous Freak wrote:According to the badge on their icon archive page, but the Magnum Opus set is non-commercial-only. Which means we're free to use it on here, as long as we give them proper credit, aren't charging any money anywhere, and don't modify the icons.


Argh, Now I wish I still had an Account - I had Magnum Opus for a while but as it was in OS X icon format and not png, I couldn't get it off my drive conventionally and didn't know about doubling and the like at the time...

But yeah, I'm all in favour of using Magnum Opus as the icon set for old hardware, it's more comprehensive and better quality than the IF stuff, and available in 128*128 (good for icons in specs pages) and 32*32 (good for userboxes) at least :)
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Re: Icons for old machines in Specs pages

Postby ChristTrekker » 08 Feb 2010, 15:50

Anonymous Freak wrote:Well, according to widget : widget's Terms and Conditions page, their icons are all available under Creative Commons noncommercial and/or commercial licenses.

Icons with the noncommercial license are free for noncommercial use, including noncommercial websites. I believe this would qualify as a noncommercial website.

I've seen sites that say the icons are free for non-profit (i.e. personal) desktop use, but not allowing www use. Are we sure no such distinction is made here?
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Re: Icons for old machines in Specs pages

Postby Anonymous Freak » 08 Feb 2010, 18:02

ChristTrekker wrote:I've seen sites that say the icons are free for non-profit (i.e. personal) desktop use, but not allowing www use. Are we sure no such distinction is made here?


Well, according to widgetwidget:
Non-commercial icon sets and desktops are released under the following Creative Commons License:

[CC:BY-NC-ND]

In other words, you can use them on as many computers as you like, or on non-commercial websites/software programmes (this excludes Shareware).


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icon to PNG conversion

Postby ChristTrekker » 13 Mar 2010, 14:13

I've got the icons...how do I convert them to PNGs, saving the transparency levels?
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Re: Icons for old machines in Specs pages

Postby ~tl » 13 Mar 2010, 16:26

They appear to be saved as resource fork icons, which makes extracting them a bit of a pain. This method seems to work:

  1. Get info on the file in the Finder.
  2. Click on the icon in the upper left corner and copy.
  3. Open Preview.
  4. Select "New From Clipboard" from the file menu.
  5. Save as a PNG.
Voila!

128k.png
128k.png (6.37 KiB) Viewed 109 times


Pasting into Photoshop seems to disregard the transparency. I'm sure an Applescript could be set up to do it automagically, but it's not hugely time consuming to do it by hand.
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Re: Icons for old machines in Specs pages

Postby ChristTrekker » 22 Mar 2010, 15:16

I did a handful recently, and uploaded them to the wiki. They look very nice at larger sizes. At 32px, I think I prefer the isometric view of the Icon Factory icons. YMMV.

I'm cropping the PNGs just a hair so that when scaled down to icon-like sizes, you get as much detail as possible.
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