CF card in my 9600

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CF card in my 9600

Postby waynestewart » 28 May 2012, 05:14

I’ve been mostly using a 9600 running 9.2.2 for a few older games. Quite often when it came to a save or a reload, I’d have an annoying wait while the drive spun up.
I had a generic ATA to CF adapter kicking around so I thought I’d see about using it. I tried connecting it as a second drive on the PC133 card but the system would freeze during bootup. Didn’t have any luck adding it to any of the SCSI to ATA adapters I have. Either it'd freeze or wouldn't be recognized. I had some PC100 cards so I put the adapter on it’s own card and it worked like a charm. Copied the whole boot drive over to it. It was a little faster booting than the 80gb on the pc133 card but not hugely. Still, no extra noise and no spin up time.
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Re: CF card in my 9600

Postby beachycove » 28 May 2012, 16:09

Very interesting. Did you have to do anything special to format it?
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Re: CF card in my 9600

Postby waynestewart » 28 May 2012, 18:59

No, just used the Apple utilities
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Re: CF card in my 9600

Postby beachycove » 28 May 2012, 19:48

Was if formatted as a scsi drive, as required by some of the pci cards?
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Re: CF card in my 9600

Postby waynestewart » 28 May 2012, 20:01

Drives on my PC100 cards show up as SCSI. At least in OS 9 and earlier. I don't think I've tried one with OSX
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Re: CF card in my 9600

Postby Byrd » 28 May 2012, 23:28

Would you mind posting a link of the generic PCI CF card that you used? Thanks.

A silent, cheap and fast-ish solid state drive would be handy in many Macs with a spare PCI slot.
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Re: CF card in my 9600

Postby waynestewart » 29 May 2012, 04:26

I bought it last fall locally. The card doesn't have a name on it but this is the card and the place I bought it from.
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=33463&vpn ... cture=Syba

There's a place for a 44 pin connector but it's not present
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Re: CF card in my 9600

Postby MacJunky » 29 May 2012, 04:38

I have two of that model, they work for my desktop uses and have never caused issues. Got one in my 286 at the moment. :P

BTW, what ATA100 and ATA133 PCI cards are you using?
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Re: CF card in my 9600

Postby waynestewart » 29 May 2012, 04:58

They're both Sonnet cards.
A while back I used to get a lot of free Macs from a local shop. Actually truckloads. These cards and a lot of others were in those machines. Unfortunately I pretty much lost touch with the shop. These miserable little kids decided that they needed most of my spare time. I wasn't smart enough to run away, now I'm trapped.
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Re: CF card in my 9600

Postby waynestewart » 02 Jun 2012, 15:23

Tried the CF adapter on the Sonnet ATA 133 card and couldn’t get the 9600 to boot. So I decided to remove the ATA 133 card and try the ATA 100 card with CF in slot one. It did boot slightly faster there. Since I have boot times, with the same 9.2.2 system copied over to all the drives.
18gb on the built-in SCSI boots in 115 sec
80gb on Sonnet ATA 133 in slot 1 boots in 94 sec
4gb CF on Sonnet ATA 100 in slot 1 boots in 83 sec

Currently has 400mhz G3 with maxed out RAM
Computers I have at least 1 of: 128k, 512k, 512ke, Plus, SE, SE/30, Classic, Color Classic, Mac II, IIfx, LC, IIci, Quadras 700, 800, 840AV, 900, PM6100, 6150, 8100, 6500, 7300, 8500, 9150, 9500, 8600, 9600, Beige G3 DT, MT, Server & AIO, B&W G3, Tray loading iMac, Slot loading iMac, eMac, G4 DA, Quicksilver
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