Site works poorly with Classilla

[noidentity]

This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site.

[bizzle]

Change your theme to SubSilver and it works fine.

[noidentity]

Excellent. For some reason I didn't think to change the style, even though I've done it on other boards for this very reason. Argh

[ClassicHasClass]

This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site.

This is known to me. 9.0.4 does somewhat better. If I can get the overflow code back in (see issue 65), then the site works 100%.

[John8520]

It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site.

Just because we use this site to discuss old macs it doesn't mean we have to be able to work on this forum with said old macs. I, for one, have absolutely not interest in browsing the web with my old machines, I like to do with them what was intended, and while they were made to handle HTML/FTP/Gopher they're not particularly well known for processing javascript, CSS, and ajax.

[ClassicHasClass]

It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site.

Just because we use this site to discuss old macs it doesn't mean we have to be able to work on this forum with said old macs. I, for one, have absolutely not interest in browsing the web with my old machines, I like to do with them what was intended, and while they were made to handle HTML/FTP/Gopher they're not particularly well known for processing javascript, CSS, and ajax.

Obviously I'm slightly biased given my project, but why not? It's not like the site can't gracefully degrade for older tech (it's themeable after all). There are always reasonable compromises that can be made for accessibility, and it *is* fun to get older machines doing modern tasks if for no other reason than to say you can. (Or, in my case, because you actually prefer the older Mac OS.)

[Quadraman]

This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site.

If you read the Classilla site, they recommend using iCab for sites where you have to use CSS or turn them off in Classilla because the support is not good. Of course, if you're still surfing using Classic, any browser you use is going to have trouble with modern web content.

And most of the target audience of this site also has at least one computer capable of using a reasonably modern browser so it's not really an issue.

[ClassicHasClass]

This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site.

If you read the Classilla site, they recommend using iCab for sites where you have to use CSS or turn them off in Classilla because the support is not good. Of course, if you're still surfing using Classic, any browser you use is going to have trouble with modern web content.

And most of the target audience of this site also has at least one computer capable of using a reasonably modern browser so it's not really an issue.

How timely. Tonight I'm posting from my current internal build of the forthcoming Classilla 9.1. And may I say the MLA has never looked better in it. Watch for it coming soon.

[GreenDoc]

This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site.

If you read the Classilla site, they recommend using iCab for sites where you have to use CSS or turn them off in Classilla because the support is not good. Of course, if you're still surfing using Classic, any browser you use is going to have trouble with modern web content.

And most of the target audience of this site also has at least one computer capable of using a reasonably modern browser so it's not really an issue.

How timely. Tonight I'm posting from my current internal build of the forthcoming Classilla 9.1. And may I say the MLA has never looked better in it. Watch for it coming soon.

I'l have to try it on my G3 then

[Quadraman]

This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site.

If you read the Classilla site, they recommend using iCab for sites where you have to use CSS or turn them off in Classilla because the support is not good. Of course, if you're still surfing using Classic, any browser you use is going to have trouble with modern web content.

And most of the target audience of this site also has at least one computer capable of using a reasonably modern browser so it's not really an issue.

How timely. Tonight I'm posting from my current internal build of the forthcoming Classilla 9.1. And may I say the MLA has never looked better in it. Watch for it coming soon.

Sounds interesting. Glad to see it is still improving. Every little bit brings it that much closer to the modern era. How's it run under Sheepsaver with 9.0.4? My new Powerbook G4, which is my fastest classic capable machine, came loaded with Leopard so no classic mode for me.

[ClassicHasClass]

This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site.

If you read the Classilla site, they recommend using iCab for sites where you have to use CSS or turn them off in Classilla because the support is not good. Of course, if you're still surfing using Classic, any browser you use is going to have trouble with modern web content.

And most of the target audience of this site also has at least one computer capable of using a reasonably modern browser so it's not really an issue.

How timely. Tonight I'm posting from my current internal build of the forthcoming Classilla 9.1. And may I say the MLA has never looked better in it. Watch for it coming soon.

Sounds interesting. Glad to see it is still improving. Every little bit brings it that much closer to the modern era. How's it run under Sheepsaver with 9.0.4? My new Powerbook G4, which is my fastest classic capable machine, came loaded with Leopard so no classic mode for me.

I don't officially support Sheepshaver, but I am told that it works fine in it. Classilla will run on 8.6 and up (8.5 under duress), so Mac OS 9.0.4 should be no problem.

I don't have an ETA for Classilla 9.1, but it will be "soon." In the meantime, Classilla 9.0.4 does rather better on the MLA if you turn on the experimental renderer (View > Use Experimental Renderer or Cmd-Shift-X). This overrides certain settings in layout with laxer ones. While it makes the site kind of messy, everything should show up and be clickable.

[Quadraman]

This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site.

If you read the Classilla site, they recommend using iCab for sites where you have to use CSS or turn them off in Classilla because the support is not good. Of course, if you're still surfing using Classic, any browser you use is going to have trouble with modern web content.

And most of the target audience of this site also has at least one computer capable of using a reasonably modern browser so it's not really an issue.

How timely. Tonight I'm posting from my current internal build of the forthcoming Classilla 9.1. And may I say the MLA has never looked better in it. Watch for it coming soon.

Sounds interesting. Glad to see it is still improving. Every little bit brings it that much closer to the modern era. How's it run under Sheepsaver with 9.0.4? My new Powerbook G4, which is my fastest classic capable machine, came loaded with Leopard so no classic mode for me.

I don't officially support Sheepshaver, but I am told that it works fine in it. Classilla will run on 8.6 and up (8.5 under duress), so Mac OS 9.0.4 should be no problem.

I don't have an ETA for Classilla 9.1, but it will be "soon." In the meantime, Classilla 9.0.4 does rather better on the MLA if you turn on the experimental renderer (View > Use Experimental Renderer or Cmd-Shift-X). This overrides certain settings in layout with laxer ones. While it makes the site kind of messy, everything should show up and be clickable.

We better be careful or Bunsen will show up and lecture us about nesting quotes.

[ChristTrekker]

Bah! I'm going to be a about it, and if he gets , then I'll just for awhile, and if he's still and , then I'll just and make up even if he's or , and I'll from then on. Unless he goes all on me, in which case I'll be or . Like, the heck, man, I'm just trying to be and stuff. Don't get so about the deep quoting!

[Mike Richardson]

[IPNixon]

that's what she said.

[macgeek417]

You should AT LEAST do some basic smoothing. That'd look much better if you ran it through hq4x or something

[Anonymous Freak]

You should AT LEAST do some basic smoothing. That'd look much better if you ran it through hq4x or something

Sometimes, the pixelation is a desired part of the effect.

[Mike Richardson]

The contrast between the pixelated Mac image and the smooth anti-aliased, yet retro Chicago font is part of the unique unreproducible artistic expression.

[Mars478]

It's perfect.

[ClassicHasClass]

To get this thread desperately back on track, I think this photograph will make noidentity very happy:

http://www.floodgap.com/iv/704

And this post, in fact, is coming from that very PowerBook 1400. (Admittedly the PB has a 466MHz G3, external video, RAM Doubler and an EtherLink III PCMCIA card. But it's kind of stock. )

edit: ignore my stupidity, it helps if I put 68kmla into the NoScript list -- thought I already did that...

[MacJunky]

edit: ignore my stupidity, it helps if I put 68kmla into the NoScript list -- thought I already did that...

Can't we get some sort of list that shows exactly what is being blocked? It is a real pain in the posterior to have no idea what got blocked; preventing you from adding it.(for when adding the site you are on does not help)
Though the last version I used was kinda old.. please forgive me if it has been rectified in a more recent version.

[ClassicHasClass]

Do you mean something like a window "Site nasty.funky.evil wants to run a script. Do you want to permit it? [ Yes ] [ No ]"

I'm planning to do something like this for 9.2, but it won't be in 9.1 (9.1 is a regression fix and layout update). I do know about and acknowledge the problem, though.

[MacJunky]

not a popup for everything blocked, but perhaps a little resizable window that the user would bring up with a function in the noscript icon's contextual menu.
Then it would list the URLs of everything blocked. I am not sure if radio buttons or just a copy@paste into a top text entry box would be better though. Though a URL entry at that point might be decent.

Yea, just dump the urls into the window and then the user can copy and paste the ones they want into a box at the top and hit a button there; entering it into the whitelist.
That sounds fairly simple to implement, though I have not seen the noscript code or know what language it is in.
If you have a better idea please tell us.

[ClassicHasClass]

OIC. Then you can just pick the hosts out of the list and whitelist? That actually sounds more manageable. If that's what you mean, I like that idea even better.

FTR, NoScript is just JavaScript. It's mostly the same as Giorgio's original version with Classilla-specific changes.